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LSU TE development under Coach Steve Ensminger 2010-present

Posted on 12/25/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32832 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 1:39 pm
Like many of you, I often seem to forget that pass catching TEs exist in our offense - particularly since Richard Dickson graduated. This position can play a pivotal role in keeping defenses honest, mostly by creating mismatches in coverage and/or giving the QB a "safety valve" option when going through his progressions.

Nevertheless, in the last 5 years, our TEs have essentially been transformed into "pass-eligible tackles" - rarely releasing from the LOS to try to get open downfield. While these guys have been instrumental in providing an extra blocker in the run game, their lack of production in the receiving game can be incredibly frustrating.

It is not like we have recruited duds at the position in the last 5 years. For instance, in 2010, we signed 4* Travis Dickson and 3* Nic Jacobs (eventually dismissed from the team). In 2012, we signed 3* Dillon Gordon. In 2013, we signed 4* DeSean Smith and 3* Logan Stokes (JUCO); and last year, we signed 4* Jacory Washington and 3* Colin Jeter (JUCO).

Although some of these guys were signed primarily as blockers (Gordon, Stokes, Jeter), the more "receiving-type" TEs have been sparingly utilized. What exactly is it that has inhibited the development of our TEs in the receiving game? Bad QB play? Maybe. But even during Mett's time at LSU, the TEs were hardly ever targeted.

One probability is the TE coach, Steve Ensminger. I just looked at the collective TE receiving statistics from 2010-present, and was shocked at the numbers. I knew that TEs were rarely used in our passing game, but to see the actual numbers was eye-opening. Below are the 5-year totals:

2010
Deangelo Peterson, 16 rec., 199 yards, 0 TD
Mitch Joseph, 5 rec., 51 yards, 0 TD
Chase Clement, 2 rec., 42 yards, 0 TD
TOTAL: 23 rec., 292 yards, 0 TD

2011
Deangelo Peterson, 18 rec., 181 yards, 1 TD
Chase Clement, 7 rec., 96 yards, 1 TD
Travis Dickson, 1 rec., 10 yards, 0 TD
Mitch Joseph, 2 rec., 9 yards, 1 TD
TOTAL: 28 rec., 296 yards, 3 TD

2012
Travis Dickson, 6 rec., 73 yards, 0 TD
Nic Jacobs, 5 rec., 58 yards, 0 TD
Chase Clement, 5 rec., 51 yards, 0 TD
TOTAL: 16 rec., 182 yards, 0 TD

2013
Travis Dickson, 5 rec., 109 yards, 0 TD
Dillon Gordon, 6 rec., 88 yards, 0 TD
DeSean Smith, 1 rec., 14 yards, 0 TD
TOTAL: 12 rec., 211 yards, 0 TD

2014
Travis Dickson, 7 rec., 60 yards, 0 TD
Logan Stokes, 1 rec., 3 yards, 1 TD
TOTAL: 8 rec., 63 yards, 1 TD

5-YEAR TOTAL: 87 rec., 1044 yards, 4 TD

The number that stands out to me most is the 4 touchdowns. Our TEs have averaged less than 1 TD per year since Ensminger's arrival at LSU. For a position that should thrive in the red zone, this statistic is pretty bad. I really hope that this begins to change in the next year or so, especially with DeSean Smith and Jacory Washington coming up in the mix. For a guy that collects a $310,000 salary - one of the highest in the nation for a TEs coach - I'd like to see a little bit more production from his group, especially in the red zone.
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7808 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

LSU TE
Posted by TampaTiger22
Tampa, FL
Member since Jul 2012
6669 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 1:46 pm to
We have TE's ? It's not April pal, you can't fool me
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
12137 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 1:46 pm to
As you said, Gordon, Stokes, and Jeter are blocking TEs, and Washinton redshirted. DeSean Smith is only a sophomore with room to grow, so the only real "failure" is Travis Dickson.

But $310K for that production is absurd.

Oh. And O.J. Howard
Posted by saintsfan22
baton rouge
Member since May 2006
71978 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 1:47 pm to
Not throwing the ball to the TE can't really be blamed on him.
Posted by NeverRains
Texas
Member since Jun 2012
3010 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 1:49 pm to
I agree, but I think it has to do less with the TE coach and more with the offensive scheme and what type of plays we run. That's ultimately the responsibility of Les and Cam.
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27449 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 2:03 pm to
How many teams in the NFL actually have good TEs?

Six, seven teams?
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 2:19 pm to
LSU TE - extended offensive tackle
Posted by Mulerider
Member since Jul 2013
1615 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 2:45 pm to
quote:

What exactly is it that has inhibited the development of our TEs in the receiving game?


LSU's inability to adapt to the new wave of forward passing and competent QB play in today's game. TE's will miss 100% of the passes not thrown to them.

Posted by Gevans17
Member since Dec 2007
1135 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 3:35 pm to
Why bother. waste of money
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56711 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 4:14 pm to
I am not sure of his value, but I don't think the TE production or lack thereof can be all on Ensminger. You could have Gronkowski out ther and I don't think he could catch it more than they throw it to him, and that is like 10 times a year.

I imagine Ensminger is as frustrated by this as much as anyone, or fire him, don't think it matters much.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10075 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

2014: 1 TD


Logan Stokes

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56946 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 6:22 pm to
quote:

The number that stands out to me most is the 4 touchdowns. Our TEs have averaged less than 1 TD per year since Ensminger's arrival at LSU.


I think it's pretty naive to think the TE coach is responsible for the TEs usage in the passing game.

Posted by baobabtiger
Member since May 2009
4753 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 8:02 pm to
I don't get all the fuss over tight ends. For instance, last season who would you like to take touches from? I know if much rather have the ball in Landry, Odell, or Hill's hands. Those dudes are a lot better than anything we have at tight end.

This year I think we needed to concentrate on throwing for over 150 yards a game consistently.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9963 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 8:39 pm to
Terrible QB, Terrible Coach, but he is a tiger
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164657 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 8:41 pm to
Ensminger was the only coach smart enough to think we needed to call a timeout before the 4th down debacle at the end of the Auburn game in 2010 where Lee tried to scramble for 7 yards.
Posted by TG
Metairie
Member since Sep 2004
3064 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 9:30 pm to
Ensminger has nothing to do with passes to our TE's. It's the fault of the Offensive Coordinator and head coach. Regardless of whether you have 3* and 4* signees, they aren't a threat unless the ball is thrown them more than a dozen times a year.
Posted by Futures Bleak
Member since Jun 2014
3545 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 9:36 pm to

Maybe LSU just doesn't operate an offense that incorporates TE's as passing threats.

Just a hunch
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 12/25/14 at 10:11 pm to
We just added another TE in recruiting for like our 50th TE on the roster who will end up being an excellent extra T in the game.
Posted by Landry59
Member since Jul 2014
69 posts
Posted on 12/26/14 at 9:39 am to
Look to the "Grass Eater" for the real answer.
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