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re: DeBlasio, Obama and every other liberal
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:22 pm to boosiebadazz
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:22 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Yep sure did.
You asked that other poster about concrete steps to restore trust...
quote:I see nothing wrong with cameras but haven't really thought through the ramifications of say supervisors reviewing the recordings and admonishing cops for not given a speeding ticket etc....
I don't see a negative to body cameras, but I'm willing to listen if other people may...
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:24 pm to Jbird
I think you could legislate around that.
The cameras will not be used in evaluating officer performance unless a review of the video is first requested by a citizen.
I don't know of anyone who is contacting the police department about getting out of a ticket.
The cameras will not be used in evaluating officer performance unless a review of the video is first requested by a citizen.
I don't know of anyone who is contacting the police department about getting out of a ticket.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:24 pm to Jbird
quote:
I see nothing wrong with cameras but haven't really thought through the ramifications of say supervisors reviewing the recordings and admonishing cops for not given a speeding ticket etc....
I think you're safe on that one. That's a lot of data for some poor bastard to have to sift through each shift.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:24 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Okay fair enough
Well if the Bundy people/ Tea Party bore no responsibility for the Vegas murders, how can those speaking out now about Garner/Ferguson bear any responsibility for this crazy a-hole?
It appears De Blasio nurtured the environment of potential violence.
quote:In what way, even that idiot Bundy and company rejected the a-hole?
I'm glad the other guy brought the Vegas murders in here because I believe they are quite analogous to this current situation.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:26 pm to dante
quote:
I'm not sure what you mean with that statement.
Police are being paid to protect us, and should be held to a higher standard than normal citizens.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:27 pm to Walking the Earth
quote:My buddy is a cop been one for 24 years, guess what he does on every shift for one to three hours, he watches speeding and red light camera video to accept of reject the possibility of sending the fines on to the drivers.
I think you're safe on that one. That's a lot of data for some poor bastard to have to sift through each shift.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:28 pm to Jbird
quote:
It appears De Blasio nurtured the environment of potential violence.
Just as the Bundy people armed with weapons staring down federal agents nurtured an environment of potential violence.
quote:
In what way, even that idiot Bundy and company rejected the a-hole?
And I've seen multiple politicians/ talking heads denounce this crazy a-hole in NYC. Both times, the crazy people were chastised and denounced by the adults in the room.
Again, not really seeing a difference.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:28 pm to Jcorye1
quote:Interesting, so the cops in NYC aren't a cross sample of their community?
Police are being paid to protect us, and should be held to a higher standard than normal citizens.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:30 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Maybe, but in light of all the arms in that environment and the fact they rejected nut jobs it would seem you are standing on weak ground.
Just as the Bundy people armed with weapons staring down federal agents nurtured an environment of potential violence.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:30 pm to Jbird
quote:
My buddy is a cop been one for 24 years, guess what he does on every shift for one to three hours, he watches speeding and red light camera video to accept of reject the possibility of sending the fines on to the drivers.
It's a bit of a leap from that to analyzing the data of anywhere (depending on the city)from just a few to hundreds of police officers' (each shift!) personal cams to make sure that in their entire shift, they're not letting the average speeder off light. That would cost more money than it's worth.
And your buddy has almost 25 years in the bank and he's the red light cam hall monitor? Who'd he piss off?
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:31 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Before or after the act?
And I've seen multiple politicians/ talking heads denounce this crazy a-hole in NYC. Both times, the crazy people were chastised and denounced by the adults in the room.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:32 pm to Jbird
quote:
they rejected nut jobs
Only because they knew about them beforehand. Link to anyone, especially anyone within the Ferguson protest movement, knowing about this a-hole's plan beforehand?
I'd argue the Bundy people may have more blood on their hands because they knew how radical the shooters were and didn't warn anyone.
[I don't really believe that, but since we're really nitpicking the timelines here...]
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:33 pm to Walking the Earth
quote:Event marker ever hear of them?
It's a bit of a leap from that to analyzing the data of anywhere (depending on the city)from just a few to hundreds of police officers' (each shift!) personal cams to make sure that in their entire shift, they're not letting the average speeder off light. That would cost more money than it's worth.
quote:Every cop in uniform in my city get stuck with the detail assuming they aren't on probation. Not a you suck and we need to keep you off the street detail.
And your buddy has almost 25 years in the bank and he's the red light cam hall monitor?E Who'd he piss off?
Well I guess in NYC or Chicago etc... this would be a multi million dollar contract.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:34 pm to Jbird
How are they supposed to know NYC a-hole was going to do this? Are they prognosticators?
Again, the Bundy people were freaked out enough by the radicalism shown by the Vegas assholes to ask them to leave.
Couldn't you say the Bundy folks had more of a forewarning than the Ferguson folks?
Again, the Bundy people were freaked out enough by the radicalism shown by the Vegas assholes to ask them to leave.
Couldn't you say the Bundy folks had more of a forewarning than the Ferguson folks?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:36 pm to boosiebadazz
Nit picking timelines? Seems to me you would have a monster point if in fact they knew beforehand the Vegas thing was going to go down, also how do you know informants weren't giving information on possible nutjobs before hand?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:38 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Where did I claim they would?
How are they supposed to know NYC a-hole was going to do this? Are they prognosticators?
As for your second part, again how do you know there weren't informants giving data on more than just these murderers?
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:38 pm to Jbird
quote:
Seems to me you would have a monster point if in fact they knew beforehand the Vegas thing was going to go down
They were freaked out enough by their radicalism to ask them to leave. Seems like more of a forewarning than any of the Ferguson/Garner people had from the NYC nut job.
Again, I'm amazed you're still trying to argue these two situations are drastically different enough to allow you to believe the overall movement was at least partially responsible for one heinous act and another movement was completely absolved from another heinous act.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:39 pm to Jbird
quote:
As for your second part, again how do you know there weren't informants giving data on more than just these murderers?
I'm not following...
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:41 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:I don't recall death chants in Vegas.
I'm glad the other guy brought the Vegas murders in here because I believe they are quite analogous to this current situation.
Posted on 12/22/14 at 10:43 pm to dante
Nah, just a bunch of armed citizens staring down armed federal agents and the cries of tyranny in the air.
Other than that, totally peaceful and light-hearted.
Other than that, totally peaceful and light-hearted.
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