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re: Frick You Bill De Blasio.You are Fricking toast. Liberal Shitebag.

Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:08 am to
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:08 am to
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Any one of those cops would sell his firstborn to have that day back, I guarantee.

It's good that they feel this way. But it's of limited value. For comparison, a person who commits vehicular homicide while intoxicated will often also wish they could take it back. That doesn't change the nature of their actions. I'm not directly comparing the two, just pointing out that post event remorse isn't all that impressive.

And the post event remorse becomes really inconsequential when you have all the police apologists showing up to tell us all how Garner got what he deserved. We even have cop apologists telling us Tamir Rice got what he had coming to him.
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fanning the flames

Does rhetoric from the police or their unions count as fanning the flames of animus? Or does that just go one way?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
79284 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 11:18 am to
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It's good that they feel this way. But it's of limited value. For comparison, a person who commits vehicular homicide while intoxicated will often also wish they could take it back. That doesn't change the nature of their actions. I'm not directly comparing the two, just pointing out that post event remorse isn't all that impressive.
I agree.

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And the post event remorse becomes really inconsequential when you have all the police apologists showing up to tell us all how Garner got what he deserved


Here is where you are dishonest and go off the rails. They don't think he "deserved" it. THEY THINK HE GOT WHAT THE LAW PRESCRIBES (obviously talking about arrest and not death). Surely you know the difference. And it's law that has the OVERWHELMING support of the same Democrats that are all aflutter.

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Does rhetoric from the police or their unions count as fanning the flames of animus? Or does that just go one way?


When thousands of pro-cop demonstrators take to burning businesses, assaulting and killing people in the streets, we will talk.
This post was edited on 12/22/14 at 11:22 am
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
43086 posts
Posted on 12/22/14 at 6:58 pm to
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apologists showing up to tell us all how Garner got what he deserved.

I don't know if he deserved it or not - but he did suffer the consequences of what he started.

He was in complete control of his destiny from the moment he woke up that morning right up to the point where he resisted arrest.

The cops were just doing their jobs in response to his actions. What happened to him is the fault of nobody but himself.

You have the luxury of sitting at your keyboard and refining every sentence you type in. You can sit and conjure up various scenarios of what may or may not happen and dream up a response to each one to suit whatever narrative you are trying to push.

in the real world, complex interactions happen in seconds with no second chance. Decisions are made in split seconds with no opportunity weigh different options. Police fall back on their training and basic human instinct when in a battle with another human for their life or safety.

What they did was completely consistent with reasonable response to the threat presented. If you cannot see that you are willfully blind.

You can sit in your armchair and posit 'what ifs' all day, but it does not make the cops into bad men. This whole episode is a result of a series of bad decisions by Eric Garner over many weeks. He and he alone is to blame for his demise.
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