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re: Give me one good reason why marijuana should be illegal while alcohol shouldn't
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:22 pm to Jimbeaux
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:22 pm to Jimbeaux
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Intoxication effects of a small amount of alcohol is lower than for marijuana. Meaning that someone can have a beer or glass or wine and not be significantly intoxicated enough to be impaired. The effect of marijuana is generally and relatively more immediate.
Wrong. Impossible to make these type of generalizations. Definitely varies case by case.
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Steady use of marijuana, even in small doses, has more of a deleterious health effect than that of steady use of small doses of alcohol. Meaning that a person who smokes a joint per day will have more negative health effects than a person who consumes one beer or glass of wine per day.
Link to this study? Would love to take a look at it.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:33 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Here's just some stuff from a quick search.
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Marijuana is the most commonly used illicit drug in the United States. When smoked, it begins to effect users almost immediately and can last for one to three hours. When it is eaten in food, such as baked in brownies and cookies, the effects take longer to begin, but usually last longer.
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Alcohol use: If you drink, keep it moderate
Alcohol use can be a slippery slope. Moderate drinking can offer some health benefits. But heavy drinking can have serious consequences.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 11:02 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Not directly supporting his claim, but this review article is a great jumping off point on the matter. Many studies (cited in the article) support some amount of cognitive decline with chronic use, specifically in a dose-dependent fashion. It's somewhat controversial but generally accepted that it's a reversible (with abstinence) decline. I disagree with your "case by case" statement as it is written. If you're suggesting that some people have enough of what I will call "cognitive reserve" that a small amount of decline isn't noticeable to them and those around them, then I do agree. If you suggest that some people simply aren't affected cognitively either acutely or chronically by consistent use, I just disagree. The mechanism I've seen proposed involves the heavily lipophillic THC getting pretty well distributed in/around myelin around nerves in the CNS, slowing their conduction. If that is the case, and it does sound totally reasonable to me: the drug rapidly binds its receptors throughout the body (and the ingested gets "high") before being distributed to the fatty tissues where it slowly redistributes back into the blood stream for elimination, and the more that is ingested, the longer and higher concentration of the drug in the fatty tissues (including CNS neurons), the slower their conduction, the longer it takes to return to baseline. I'm not a neuroscientist, I will admit, and that has not been proven to my knowledge. But if that's the case, I think the argument for it affecting people on a case by case basis fails, unless, again, that argument considers some small amount of cognitive decline in the particularly high-functioning person to be irrelevant to their activities of daily life.
Please note that the article linked also reviews several articles on exposing schizophrenia in susceptible adults (with pretty decent evidence) and possibly even leading to the development of psychiatric disorders in the susceptible developing/young adolescent brain (not really grasping at straws, but not making ground-breaking connections either), but that is not the premise of my post, and I will refrain from expanding my opinion on those topics as they're not particularly relevant unless someone's trying to make the argument that the age of legalization should be nonexistent or, in light of the evidence of this paper, under age 15. As always, read with great scrutiny. I have not evaluated the articles that this paper mentions myself, and I probably won't get around to it anytime soon. If you happen to check them out and find that they're solid or bogus, I'd actually love to hear your opinion of them. Until then, happy reading
Please note that the article linked also reviews several articles on exposing schizophrenia in susceptible adults (with pretty decent evidence) and possibly even leading to the development of psychiatric disorders in the susceptible developing/young adolescent brain (not really grasping at straws, but not making ground-breaking connections either), but that is not the premise of my post, and I will refrain from expanding my opinion on those topics as they're not particularly relevant unless someone's trying to make the argument that the age of legalization should be nonexistent or, in light of the evidence of this paper, under age 15. As always, read with great scrutiny. I have not evaluated the articles that this paper mentions myself, and I probably won't get around to it anytime soon. If you happen to check them out and find that they're solid or bogus, I'd actually love to hear your opinion of them. Until then, happy reading
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