I don't doubt that a man named Yeshua existed around that time period in that same geographical location. I'm also aware that the Bible you guys cite was written by man and revised at Council upon Council back in the day. I'm also aware of the role religion played in the power structure back then. It makes no difference to me that those same men revising the text at those Councils decided to bolster their legitimacy by claiming that God spoke through them and what came from the Council was actually what God intended. Call me a cynic, but I think that's a bunch of self-serving bullshite.

Simply put, I don't much know or care if Jesus himself procliamed himself to be the Son of God or whether that was added later in order to confer legitimacy and power to those who claimed to speak for him and the Church.

Many of the things He said regarding how to treat one another and how to carry yourself on earth resonate with me and I think they're good principles to live by. However, I am also aware of the historical context of how and why the religion(s) that grew up around Jesus did, and I'm not going to discount what He said simply because a bunch of Dark Age aristocrats wanted to keep a stranglehold on power and wealth.

I like picking things from various religions around the world. There are a lot of wise men throughout history who claimed to be some sort of deity. I don't know if those men themselves actually said that or their followers added that later to bolster the legitimacy of their belief system. I don't think any religion has the one true claim to legitimacy and truly speaks for whomever or whatever (possibly) created us.

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Posted by Crimson1st

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Posted on 12/19/14 at 11:18 am to boosiebadazz

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I like picking things from various religions around the world. I don't think any religion has the one true claim to legitimacy and truly speaks for whomever or whatever (possibly) created us.

I understand that you like to peruse the tenets of different religions like this and that is certainly easy to do and glean some useful information BUT in the end there is only one faith who has it fully accurate if you even chose to believe. I say this because when all is said and done, if you choose to believe in a faith, somebody has to be correct and the others which claim their way was the way must be wrong. If you say "Well there are some religions who claim you can believe what you want and still be ok." If you subscribe to that belief, I wouldn't really say that involves any leap of faith, or a minimal one at best.

Don't get me wrong, doing research and learning is great, but my advice is let that guide you to a faith that you, through your research, find to be the one that speaks the unblemished truth. Furthermore, try not to let some of the so called adherents to that faith, who adhere to the name more than the practice of the faith, derail your understanding of it and what it actually stands for. As a Christian I can say that Satan has a lot of plants in Christendom to sour potential followers to the faith...don't let them represent the true intent of Christianity.

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Posted by Mephistopheles

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Posted on 12/19/14 at 2:35 pm to boosiebadazz

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I don't doubt that a man named Yeshua existed around that time period in that same geographical location. I'm also aware that the Bible you guys cite was written by man and revised at Council upon Council back in the day. I'm also aware of the role religion played in the power structure back then. It makes no difference to me that those same men revising the text at those Councils decided to bolster their legitimacy by claiming that God spoke through them and what came from the Council was actually what God intended. Call me a cynic, but I think that's a bunch of self-serving bullshite.

Simply put, I don't much know or care if Jesus himself procliamed himself to be the Son of God or whether that was added later in order to confer legitimacy and power to those who claimed to speak for him and the Church.

Many of the things He said regarding how to treat one another and how to carry yourself on earth resonate with me and I think they're good principles to live by. However, I am also aware of the historical context of how and why the religion(s) that grew up around Jesus did, and I'm not going to discount what He said simply because a bunch of Dark Age aristocrats wanted to keep a stranglehold on power and wealth.

I like picking things from various religions around the world. There are a lot of wise men throughout history who claimed to be some sort of deity. I don't know if those men themselves actually said that or their followers added that later to bolster the legitimacy of their belief system. I don't think any religion has the one true claim to legitimacy and truly speaks for whomever or whatever (possibly) created us.

Hands down the best post I´ve read on this site. And I´ve been here for 10 years.

ETA: Apparently I´ve only been on this site since 2007... wtf

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