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re: Good news for some. Pat Robertson says homosexuals will soon "die out"....

Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:58 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 4:58 pm to
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No the problem with what you believe is you believe that someone can only be a good person if they are a Christian...which rather lives out about 3 or 4 billion people in the world.
But that's not true; not at all.

There are "good people" who aren't Christians, and there are professing Christians who live worse lives than the most staunch Atheists.

Christianity--regardless of what certain sects might say--isn't a religion of works, meaning you don't work your way to Heaven. The good works a Christian does should be done as the result of thankfulness for salvation by the Grace of God and love for God and for other people.

Perhaps other Christians think that only Christians are "good people", but I don't. In fact, I don't even like to think of people as "good" or "bad", since everyone is capable of doing the best and worst things imaginable. But Christian's aren't any "better" than non-Christians. I'd go as far as to say that Christianity today has almost completely thrown out the law, where your typical Christian doesn't look any different from anyone else.
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:01 pm to
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Perhaps other Christians think that only Christians are "good people", but I don't. In fact, I don't even like to think of people as "good" or "bad", since everyone is capable of doing the best and worst things imaginable. But Christian's aren't any "better" than non-Christians. I'd go as far as to say that Christianity today has almost completely thrown out the law, where your typical Christian doesn't look any different from anyone else.


Ah hell progress is being made.

Now I can't make fun of you and will be forced to have serious debates
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 5:04 pm to
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Christianity--regardless of what certain sects might say--isn't a religion of works, meaning you don't work your way to Heaven.


Man you REALLY don't know the Bible. Epistle of James:

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14What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?15If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what good is that? 17So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.


18But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder! 20Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? 21Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; 23and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God. 24You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way?26For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead.[18]
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