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re: What would you say to a Yazidi woman raped by ISIS who wanted an abortion?

Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41856 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:11 pm to
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Well, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Don't care. This is a discussion forum, not a rape victims hotline. Doing what is right and what feels good are often two different things. You can be as comforting as you'd like to the mother without agreeing with the decision to kill the child.

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No you can't, since that child was conceived under an act of pure evil. That child by no sane person's mind should have ever been conceived. It does not deserve to see the light of day. I can see the argument when two idiots are fricking around and don't use protection and this happens, but no matter how you dice it with a rape, it's evil to let that child see the light of day. In its most basic form, what you're proposing is that God wanted that girl to get raped in order to conceive this child, to do who knows what holy plan for him. Basically for me, that proposes that God is evil and will let monstrous things happen just for the sake of procreation. I think God is a bit more humane than that and is understanding that this woman is in a traumatic and horrible situation, and she made due with the best option available to her, which is most certainly an abortion.
There's a lot wrong with this paragraph, but I'll keep it simple: your entire premise is based on the notion that the circumstances around the conception of a child outweigh the existence of the child after it has been conceived.

When it's all boiled down, conception happens because a sperm is implanted in an egg. The context around how that happens is irreverent in terms of judging the relevancy of the child, in my opinion.
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frick you
Looks like I was right about that emotion thing with you.

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You are so delusional it makes me sick.
You are so delusional and callous about the unborn child and it makes me sick.

See? I can play that game, too. It's not an argument, though.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
6961 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:18 pm to
So logically and statically a woman is more likely to die from childbirth than having an abortion.

If a woman wants an abortion, what is the logical reason for her to risk death if she doesn't want to?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109875 posts
Posted on 12/11/14 at 3:33 pm to
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There's a lot wrong with this paragraph, but I'll keep it simple: your entire premise is based on the notion that the circumstances around the conception of a child outweigh the existence of the child after it has been conceived.


No, there's nothing wrong with it, because it leaves one of two options: either God is evil or he is significantly morally flawed. That is to say, if you're right, then God is not worthy of being worshipped.

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Looks like I was right about that emotion thing with you.


You say that like being an emotional being is a bad thing. Better than being an idiotic drone who only deals in a world of absolutes and not able to see anything in between.
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