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re: Changing nothing but team names, what happens?

Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:29 pm to
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Alabama scored almost 5x as much as its opponents; OSU scored less than 2x as much as its opponents.


Ha. You're playing fast and loose with the facts there. I like that you say "almost 5x" but in actuality, Bama scored barely over 4x (4.08x) as many points...not almost 5x. while Okie State scored less than 2x, but that less than is 1.9x. You're misrepresenting the numbers a bit.

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All things considered, there's nothing wrong with Bama at #2


How about that OSU was a conference champion and Alabama didn't even win their division? Or that Alabama had something like only two wins against ranked opponents compared to OSU's four or so?

Name recognition and media (Oklahoma having a State behind it rather than not; Alabama and Nick Saban being involved) push due to it accounted for the rankings more so than on the field accomplishments.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:29 pm to
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In the end, we end up with four teams from the same group of championship-contending teams we always have.

Because they better records and tougher schedules than TCU and Baylor. All four of them.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 2:35 pm to
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Ha. You're playing fast and loose with the facts there. I like that you say "almost 5x" but in actuality, Bama scored barely over 4x (4.08x) as many points...not almost 5x. while Okie State scored less than 2x, but that less than is 1.9x. You're misrepresenting the numbers a bit.
A fair correction.
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How about that OSU was a conference champion and Alabama didn't even win their division? Or that Alabama had something like only two wins against ranked opponents compared to OSU's four or so?
I never said that there was anything wrong with Oklahoma State. Either selection is reasonable; what is unreasonable is the lack of clarity regarding what the criteria are.
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Name recognition and media (Oklahoma having a State behind it rather than not; Alabama and Nick Saban being involved) push due to it accounted for the rankings more so than on the field accomplishments.
Can't say that for certain. I can provide you well-sourced, comprehensive numbers saying that Bama should be in. For example, the difference between Bama and Pokes is less than the difference in BCS+MOV and BCS-MOV. If MOV is used, Bama gets a unanimous #2 in the computers; it wasn't, thus Okie State's slight computer advantage. I myself don't like using MOV, but I see why people would want to factor that in. Neither way is "right" or "wrong," especially in this case. The problem is that the voters don't have to show their work. Not cool.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15851 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 3:41 pm to
I suppose that depends on where you pick your numbers from.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 3:43 pm to
Don't end a sentence with a preposition, amateur.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 3:44 pm
Posted by harry coleman beast
Left Field
Member since Aug 2008
52210 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 3:47 pm to
96 team playoff is the only way to crown a true champion.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15851 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 3:47 pm to
I hope you didn't pay for your education.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 3:55 pm to
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I hope you didn't pay for your education.
I didn't have to. That English is one of my strengths is 25% of the reason why. Don't give English lessons when you do not know that about which you speak.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 3:59 pm to
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Oklahoma and USC each had a higher SOS than Auburn in 2004.
USC and OU were 1&2 from the start of the season and Auburn was ranked in the low teens. They were never going to jump them because the human factor would have never allowed that to happen. I do believe Auburn had more wins against ranked teams than either OU or USC that year.
Posted by cubsfan5150
Member since Nov 2007
15851 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 4:01 pm to
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 4:17 pm to
Interesting, but the first failed shot at grammar was fired by you, and you were clueless. So how about you learn a little more before lecturing people, cool?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 4:18 pm to
Doesn't matter. On selection Sunday, the two teams selected were the two who had higher SOS. The only problem is that we didn't know at the time that #1 was ineligible.
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