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re: Honestly, who out there could replace Miles?

Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:57 pm to
Posted by DBU
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 12:57 pm to
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programs going from good/great to bad with a poor hire


In many of those instances the program was already spiraling down from its good/great status, hence the removal of the prior coach. People see a program succeed, have 2-3 bad years and the coach gets canned and just assume the program is still a successful program as before those 2-3 bad years. They disregard this little tidbit when a new coach comes in and doesn't immediately bring back the glory days.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 1:33 pm to
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In many of those instances the program was already spiraling down from its good/great status, hence the removal of the prior coach. People see a program succeed, have 2-3 bad years and the coach gets canned and just assume the program is still a successful program as before those 2-3 bad years. They disregard this little tidbit when a new coach comes in and doesn't immediately bring back the glory days.


Let's look at a few:

2001 - Davis leaves for NFL, and Miami promotes Coker to HC, he wins an NC and loses in the NC the next year then slides. He was never ready to be a head coach much like Mike Archer. Early success followed by a decline. They then hired their DC Shannon resulting in the same issue. They were stupid to hire to assistants back to back and cared more about continuity than making a real hire.

Notre Dame - Hires Bob Davie (their DC to replace Holtz) with no HC experience. They are mediocre and then hire George O'Leary. Most remember that they then fired him 5 days later because he lied about having a master's degree. Seeing what he's done at UCF, they should've held onto him. Then they hire Willingham who had an up and down career at Stanford. This was just a bad hire as UW would later make the same mistake. After Willingham, they hire and overpay for Weis who has never been a head coach in his life even at the HS level, and after a couple of years. Again, a bad hire and even stupider contract extension. They've now seemed to have gotten it right with Brian Kelly.

Michigan - Carr is a successful coach and reminds me a lot of Miles. Won a title in his third year at Michigan, but then couldn't beat tOSU (Bama for Miles) consistently. Over time, lost his good will and was pushed out. They want to hire a Michigan man, and instead hire Rich Rodriguez, who while a good coach, needed time for his system to work at Michigan. He wasn't given the time, and the team struggled with a lack of players to fit it. Then they bring in a "Michigan Man" in Hoke who had 1 great season at Ball state around 5 mediocre to bad ones, and one good year at SDSU and one bad one. They hired a guy with little proven record. He's failed and regressed.

Looking at just those 3, you can see the pattern of bad decisions. Hiring in house assistants with no HC experience, guys with up and down track records/1 great season, or guys with a system that doesn't fit the teams current talent makeup.

In the end, there are clear issues there with why teams makes mistakes. UF hired two guys with no HCing experience, and both struggled. The last to HC they hired with college HCing experience won NCs for them.
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