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re: We Have a Moral Divide, Not a Racial One

Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:04 pm to
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33733 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:04 pm to
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I can tell you why we sometimes see ourselves as black first: Due to age old and systematic bouts with local, state, and institutional racism, various aspects of our lives were first regulated to our "black" blood. Look at the classifications slave masters made for mixed people's "quad-roon", "mulatto" etc. Look at the 3/5th compromise, Dred Scott's case, the fight against abolition, the civil war, etc. All of those horrible events were seemingly passed on through our color to future generations that had to deal with tangible incidents of oppression. Yet we have boards like this that do not thing that the sins our country have a had any sort of pandemic effect on that group. Some members of that group thinks it's damn obvious and they get upset when they see things like this event happen. It's like reliving emit till for some folks (in not drawing that comparison myself). Old Age white supremacy and terrorism humiliated and embarassed the humanity of a group for centuries, leaving long lasting residual effects and to some it sometimes looks like the strives we have made have been disingenuous because of all the back pedals we take and all of the lingering racial fears and bias. This board never asks itself what it can do better to help mend this Divide. They pin it on the backs of the historically oppressed group. From an historical standpoint, they never ask themselves what they can do as a group to help mend it. It's short-sighted and ignorant of our history, and if we want to bridge the gap, the historical monarchs in this case are gonna have to make serious strides on inter-relational standpoint to help bridge this gap.


Very nice. It strains credulity for people to take the position that 350 years of slavery and other mistreatment is going to be miraculously rectified in 50 years or less with NO LASTING IMPACT whatsoever.

White people on this board can't even admit that they benefited from being white. In fact, many of them literally believe they were harmed because of it.
Posted by 2close2Gainesville
Huge
Member since Sep 2008
4795 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:06 pm to
Does this excuse breaking the law or harming others?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54256 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:08 pm to
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White people on this board can't even admit that they benefited from being white.


Actually, I feel like I benefit from being human.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:10 pm to
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take the position that 350 years of slavery and other mistreatment is going to be miraculously rectified in 50 years or less with NO LASTING IMPACT


jews aren't disproportionately impoverished (probably the opposite if anything)

Asians

Indian

Catholic

are we really explaining away such poverty and violence on the events of the past, because no other group in the United States does that
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:18 pm to
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White people on this board can't even admit that they benefited from being white.


i can't think of one instance in my life where i benefitted from being white. Being incredibly handsome? yes...i have benefitted greatly

i do know that i didn't get a job because of affirmative action though
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21558 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 2:59 pm to
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White people on this board can't even admit that they benefited from being white. In fact, many of them literally believe they were harmed because of it.


Please explain to me how I benefitted from being white?

I grew up sharing a room in a small apt with 2 brothers. I had all my physical needs met, but never had anything I wanted. My parents lived check to check and went through bankruptcy. Somehow, I worked my arse off and got a scholarship for college and earned my degree. This allows me to provide a much better life for my children. I refuse to believe any of that is because I was born white.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10581 posts
Posted on 11/25/14 at 6:04 pm to
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White people on this board can't even admit that they benefited from being white.


That's not my fault, nor my concern, quite honestly. I shouldn't have to acknowledge some supposed leg up and feel guilt over it. I am the race I am, and there's not a damned thing I can do about it. Where does it end? Good looks? IQ? Height? Weight? Eye color? I'm not making it an issue, you are, and some seem to use it as a crutch to explain away failure and bad behavior.

The things in my life where I don't have an inherent advantage, I work to get one.
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