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Pretend I know nothing immigration; what is tonight's speech supposed to be abt?

Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:15 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
58819 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:15 pm
Haven't really followed the immigration stuff closely lately....what time is the speech, what's spossed to be in it, etc...
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39860 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:19 pm to
With only 10 minutes. It isn't going to be much. Blame obstructionist Republicans forcing the Osiah to act.

Sure. Where exactly was the Senate bill? No really, where was it?

Where was the immigration legislation when the Democrats had TOTAL control for 2 full years. Where was it?
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
63575 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:21 pm to
Lame Duck President throwing a temper tantrum.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23514 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:23 pm to
Dems got creamed in midterms. That's what this is all about.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:26 pm to
Slow walking full citizenship for millions and millions of illegal immigrants for the sole purpose of creating an insurmountable voting bloc for the Democrat Party. They can't do it at once, so they are doing it in stages.

This is about nothing more than power for the Dem Party.

Anyone that says different is a damned liar.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:29 pm to
There are a number of illegals living and working within the united states. Many of them have children that were born here or born to a U.S. citizen. Thus, while the parent(s) are illegal, the child is not. Or, at a minimum, the child was granted status to be a legal resident and not face deportation

The president proposes to issue an Executive Order that grants those parents relief from the expectation of deportation, PROVIDED:

1) they have not committed (other) illegal acts

2) They agree to file papers to received work privileges, and pay taxes, etc.


the rumors have specifically excluded any right to getting citizenship. Only that they can "come out of the shadows" and remain employed in the U.S and with their children




The PROBLEM is that there is very real concerns that this is outside of the powers that the POTUS has been given constitutionally. It is suggested that this is an illegal usurpation of the Congress' power and responsibility. In fact, President Obama said exactly that in an interview last year.

thus, the controversy.


Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
27889 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

what's spossed to be in it,


Basically if you are illegally here and have a kid or if your kid is legally here, you don't have to leave. And this will basically create a huge burden on immigration officials. Probably only about 5 million people will qualify but millions more will claim this status with forgeries of documents that officials will never be able to fully vet. I'd say it's going to be extremely difficult to kick someone out if this is allowed to stand. The good part is hopefully everyone will be document so that when congress does have the will to update immigration laws, we will be able to better determine the affects. (glass half full)
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
113731 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 3:50 pm to
It's very simple. Democrat voter recruitment. NYT is going back to prisoners should be allowed to vote. In their op ed yesterday.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
65693 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 4:37 pm to
Plan B will begin after plan A (election) was a flop.

Plan B is to stick it to the Republican party.
Posted by Patrick_Bateman
Member since Jan 2012
17823 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

what is tonight's speech supposed to be abt?
More an imperial decree than a speech. But probably a little bit of both.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
114085 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 4:50 pm to
More Democratic voters.
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