re: Some amazing stats regarding Holiday

To me, Payton is going to be average. Is that bad? Nope. It just means he's a decent starter or a good spark plug off the bench. I always saw his ceiling as something like 14-16ppg on 42% shooting and 7-8ast to 3 turnovers. Tack on about 4-5 rebounds as well.

Who knows how long that'd take to develop though.

Accelerating the process by trading for young vets like Jrue and Tyreke was a risky gamble, but we had to be risky. Franchises rarely get a 2nd shot at a superstar within a couple of years. While teams like Utah lose their superstar (Deron Williams) and can't find another fast enough.