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1.Ok. So then the cooling or warming of Earth that is going on now is natural.
2. Wait, are you arguing that the Earth does not absorb the CO2 produced by man, only by life forms? I'd be interested in seeing the study on that.
3. You don't believe the Earth is in the midst of a natural cooling cycle?
4. BUt it is absorbed by other life on the planet.

1. No, it means scientists will never be able to answer questions as exacting as "what percentage of today's high in my city is anthropogenic." No physical system involving fluids is ever going to resolve to that level of detail. Similarly, a doctor will never be able to tell you exactly how many Dr. Peppers over a lifetime will cause diabetes, but can authoritatively state you should cut back on a 12-pack a day.
2. Our CO2 isn't special. It's that our net emissions (combined with deforestation) have tipped the carbon source/carbon sink balance. LINK
3. Actually, I believe it probably is, and that's the most likely explanation for ~the pause~. AGW doesn't necessarily have to be a steady increase, nor does it cancel out cycles like the PDO/AMO. But it can change a cycle naturally comprising downswings and upswings into a cycle of pauses and BIG upswings.
4. See 2.

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Posted on 11/19/14 at 12:36 pm to Iosh

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I'm going to number your replies because manually breaking quotes is a pain.

agreed

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1. No, it means scientists will never be able to answer questions as exacting as "what percentage of today's high in my city is anthropogenic." No physical system involving fluids is ever going to resolve to that level of detail. Similarly, a doctor will never be able to tell you exactly how many Dr. Peppers over a lifetime will cause diabetes, but can authoritatively state you should cut back on a 12-pack a day

Ok then. And i'm not advocating for no regulations on O&G industry either. I'm advocating that by and large, the global warming claim has been a hoax. I agree that we have expelled CO2 in the atmosphere with fossil fuels. But i do not believe the amounts are harmful to the planet. That doesn't mean we not monitor or be diligent about finding alternative fuel. And it sure as shite doesn't mean we pass some bullshite legislation aimed at making politicians rich that will result in little to no reductions of CO2. Crippling regulations will not solve the issue and no regulations will not do anything either.

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2. Our CO2 isn't special. It's that our net emissions (combined with deforestation) have tipped the carbon source/carbon sink balance.

Thank you for the link. I will read. I am skeptical, however. It is hard to not be skeptical nowadays, when even science is politicized and falsified to acheive a political end. Hopefully this article neutral and purely scientific.

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3. Actually, I believe it probably is, and that's the most likely explanation for ~the pause~. AGW doesn't lead to a neat, steady increase, nor does it cancel out natural cycles such as the PDO/AMO. What it does is change a cycle naturally comprising downswings and upswings, into a cycle of pauses and BIG upswings.

And i believe the swings we may be going through are due to natural cycles. But again see 1, i'm not advocating for no regulatins.

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