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Here's a nice "f*ck you" to the Climate Change apostles (caution: sciency shite)

Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:18 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
102293 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:18 am
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“As independent scientists, we know that apparent evidence of ‘Climate Change,’ however scary, is not proof of anything, Science derives its objectivity from robust logic and honest evidence repeatedly tested by all knowledgeable scientists, not just those paid to support the administration’s version of ‘Global Warming,’ ‘Climate Change,’ ‘Climate Disruption,’ or whatever their marketing specialists call it today."


I particularly love this:

Posted by SquirrelyBama
Member since Nov 2011
6389 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:21 am to
So the red-line is with human opinion and theory instead of what is real? Is that what all that is saying?
Posted by gatorrocks
Lake Mary, FL
Member since Oct 2007
13973 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:22 am to
You're saying the fear-mongering "scientists" were wrong on their predictions?

Gee, guess history IS repeating itself.



What's funny is my daughter is studying ancient northern africa in geography. One of the questions she was studying mentioned the reason for the decline in population in one of the kingdoms was... climate change.

I said "I'm surprised they admit climate change has been around that long".
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432453 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:29 am to
well the comments in the OP are right

the models are obviously very wrong

but there is legit science in the errors realized in trying to make those models much more accurate

i don't think many people are arguing that climate is changing. however, the fact that we had to call it "climate change" instead of "global warming" to adjust for new information is a big deal. the causation is also not settled, and it is likely varied, so the division of causation is certainly not settled.

my stance on AGW has been pretty consistent for a few years. i think humans have an impact on global climate. i don't think we have any idea of what that impact is, yet. i think that we are very egotistical and we like to imagine our effects as greater than they are. this leads to emotional thinking and fear mongering. self-serving scientists see the economic incentives and are riding the financial gravy train, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy and confirmation bias with any results.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45924 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:32 am to
I wonder if Gruber has been working on global warming also...
Posted by Meauxjeaux
98836 posts including my alters
Member since Jun 2005
41420 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:47 am to
If there is a God, that term "Grubered" from the other thread will come to mean "any man-made scientific 'model' can be made to output whatever the makers want".

Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:25 am to
Who the f**k is dcnfenergy? You might as well cite a bathroom wall as your source. How gullible can you get?
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