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Here's a nice "f*ck you" to the Climate Change apostles (caution: sciency shite)
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:18 am
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:18 am
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I particularly love this:
quote:
“As independent scientists, we know that apparent evidence of ‘Climate Change,’ however scary, is not proof of anything, Science derives its objectivity from robust logic and honest evidence repeatedly tested by all knowledgeable scientists, not just those paid to support the administration’s version of ‘Global Warming,’ ‘Climate Change,’ ‘Climate Disruption,’ or whatever their marketing specialists call it today."
I particularly love this:
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:21 am to udtiger
So the red-line is with human opinion and theory instead of what is real? Is that what all that is saying?
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:22 am to udtiger
You're saying the fear-mongering "scientists" were wrong on their predictions?
Gee, guess history IS repeating itself.
What's funny is my daughter is studying ancient northern africa in geography. One of the questions she was studying mentioned the reason for the decline in population in one of the kingdoms was... climate change.
I said "I'm surprised they admit climate change has been around that long".
Gee, guess history IS repeating itself.
What's funny is my daughter is studying ancient northern africa in geography. One of the questions she was studying mentioned the reason for the decline in population in one of the kingdoms was... climate change.
I said "I'm surprised they admit climate change has been around that long".
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:29 am to udtiger
well the comments in the OP are right
the models are obviously very wrong
but there is legit science in the errors realized in trying to make those models much more accurate
i don't think many people are arguing that climate is changing. however, the fact that we had to call it "climate change" instead of "global warming" to adjust for new information is a big deal. the causation is also not settled, and it is likely varied, so the division of causation is certainly not settled.
my stance on AGW has been pretty consistent for a few years. i think humans have an impact on global climate. i don't think we have any idea of what that impact is, yet. i think that we are very egotistical and we like to imagine our effects as greater than they are. this leads to emotional thinking and fear mongering. self-serving scientists see the economic incentives and are riding the financial gravy train, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy and confirmation bias with any results.
the models are obviously very wrong
but there is legit science in the errors realized in trying to make those models much more accurate
i don't think many people are arguing that climate is changing. however, the fact that we had to call it "climate change" instead of "global warming" to adjust for new information is a big deal. the causation is also not settled, and it is likely varied, so the division of causation is certainly not settled.
my stance on AGW has been pretty consistent for a few years. i think humans have an impact on global climate. i don't think we have any idea of what that impact is, yet. i think that we are very egotistical and we like to imagine our effects as greater than they are. this leads to emotional thinking and fear mongering. self-serving scientists see the economic incentives and are riding the financial gravy train, creating a self-fulfilling prophecy and confirmation bias with any results.
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:32 am to udtiger
I wonder if Gruber has been working on global warming also...
Posted on 11/19/14 at 9:47 am to udtiger
If there is a God, that term "Grubered" from the other thread will come to mean "any man-made scientific 'model' can be made to output whatever the makers want".
Posted on 11/19/14 at 10:25 am to udtiger
Who the f**k is dcnfenergy? You might as well cite a bathroom wall as your source. How gullible can you get?
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