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re: Fetuses,’ ‘Infants’ Not People Because They ‘Cannot Talk’

Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:38 pm to
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:38 pm to
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‘Infants’ Not People Because They ‘Cannot Talk’
While this is an incredibly stupid argument, EVERYONE who is pro-choice believes some form of it. Not necessarily that ability to talk differentiates person from non-person, but that infants and fetuses are not people for some other reason.

You cannot be pro choice unless you believe that a baby in the womb is not a person.

I can think of one other time in American History when a certain policy was defended on the grounds that the "subjects" it hurt were not people. Actually, fetuses aren't even considered 3/5th of a person...
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54754 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:39 pm to
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While this is an incredibly stupid argument, EVERYONE who is pro-choice believes some form of it. Not necessarily that ability to talk differentiates person from non-person, but that infants and fetuses are not people for some other reason.


Did you read the tweet? No. And your statement is as stupid as the imagined statement by Barkin.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:41 pm to
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‘Infants’ Not People Because They ‘Cannot Talk’
While this is an incredibly stupid argument, EVERYONE who is pro-choice believes some form of it.
no. That's not even what the twitter comment is saying. My lord is it possible you can be this dumb and have a heartbeat yourself?
Posted by Iosh
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 1:41 pm to
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You cannot be pro choice unless you believe that a baby in the womb is not a person.
Sure you can. Rothbard's evictionist position is an example.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 1:42 pm
Posted by AUbused
Member since Dec 2013
7785 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 3:12 pm to
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While this is an incredibly stupid argument, EVERYONE who is pro-choice believes some form of it


IMO, if anything dictates human vs non-human or person vs non-person it would be consciousness or the existences of a functioning central nervous system.

The idea that a 3 week old mass of cells smaller than a pinhead is a "person" is laughable. It is the "potential" for a person as is every bit of seed spilled by the avid porn fans of the OT. The fact that it just so happens to have combined with an egg is asinine and arbitrary to me.

Metaphysically if "I think therefore I am" a 3 week old fetus "is not".
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