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re: The official Interstellar thread (spoilers)

Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:40 am to
Posted by Volvagia
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:40 am to
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Your main argument is seemingly the nonchalance and disinterest in the wormhole displayed by the remaining humans, predicated on the fact that humanity has all it needs and doesn't require a planetary body on which to subsist.


Ah....I see.


My point isn't that though.


Cooper Station is an argument against that in fact.

They are planning on exploring the wormhole, and are pre positioning assets to facilitate it at the end of the film.


The implications of "disinterest" that you are referring to is from statements made earlier in the thread that if the wormhole was open, Cooper wouldn't have needed to take a Ranger to get to Brand.

They insinuated that there was a fleet of ships just hovering around Saturn eagerly waiting to go through.

I was demonstrating that wasn't the case.



My argument is that given that from their perspective, the Lazarus and Endurance missions all failed miserably. So factoring in anything requiring the other side of the wormhole to survive was considered a low percentage move.

And because it wasn't judged to be a major factor in survival anymore with the ability to build massive stations, it jumped way down the priority list.



If you are in your front yard and your house is burning down, you probably aren't googling for airfares to Hawaii. Sure, you might go on that trip later....but it will be after you get your affairs in order on the homefront.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 2:41 am
Posted by abellsujr
New England
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:45 am to
So, they wouldn't send a small ship through? I don't buy that. Small ships were taking off and landing throughout the entire ending. Why would they not send just one out through the wormhole? A scout.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 2:47 am
Posted by Cs
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 11/24/14 at 2:57 am to
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My argument is that given that from their perspective, the Lazarus and Endurance missions all failed miserably. So factoring in anything requiring the other side of the wormhole to survive was considered a low percentage move.

And because it wasn't judged to be a major factor in survival anymore with the ability to build massive stations, it jumped way down the priority list.



I'm not quite sure I would agree with the notion that humanity viewed the Lazarus (or the Endurance missions) as a failure. Data transmission back through the wormhole was rudimentary, as they could only receive binary pings on an annual basis. Yet, those data were apparently sufficient to impel them to send a ship back through the wormhole to explore the most promising system. This was the purpose behind the Lazarus missions - arrive at your planet, establish your transmitter, and then enter into cryostasis and hope that someone eventually makes it to your planet. Humanity back on Earth received pings from all the planets within one of the star systems, which subsequently prompted them to revisit that system a decade later. The Lazarus missions seemed to have succeeded in that regard.

There was also no reason for Murph, Brand, or any of the other scientists on Earth to speculate that something dire had occurred to the Endurance crew. They all understood the effects of relativity and time dilation, and knew that 40 years for them could have been mere hours for the Endurance crew, depending on where they were. They didn't even have an opportunity to transmit anything back through the wormhole until they landed on Dr. Mann's planet, which was 20+ years later - and, given the revelation of Brand's lie to Cooper, it doesn't appear that they ever did.
This post was edited on 11/24/14 at 3:03 am
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