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re: CFN says LSU hosed

Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:24 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:24 pm to
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So, if that pass at the end is caught, and LSU won, then because the rest of the game was "lop sided", does MSU still get the W?



That's a really stupid question. If's are not worth considering.

The reality is we were dominated for 3.5 quarters, regardless of us almost squeaking out a win.
Posted by bigpapamac
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:24 pm to
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They have ginned up a desire for a system that will, ultimately, benefit them more so than the current one. They've gone about it pretending it's all about getting a better product...does anyone think their motives are that altruistic?

This is going to generate a shite ton of revenue. That is without question.

Will it makes the game better? I seriously doubt it based on what little we know about the system.


So you're blaming ESPN and on your own little personal crusade because you think they're responsible for creating a playoff? Everybody wanted this, so I guess we should commend ESPN then. And if you don't think the playoff will make the game better you're probably just a joyless pit of sorrow.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:24 pm to
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But they didn't and their wins are less impressive. Way to throw out a media darling instead of using any on field results to back you up.


I don't give a shite about ND. I'm just using loss as an example of why saying OM's resume is great because they have a "good loss".

Also since you're talking about no facts, why don't you provide some facts to back up your claim about OM's resume being so great. A win over one ranked team and a close loss to #19 doesn't make it so.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:25 pm to
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The issue is we were completely non competitive for 3.5 quarter s against State and barely even showed a pulse against Auburn. Yes, those two teams are some of the highest ranked, but the losses were very lopsided. That has to be taken into consideration.


But prior to the season, the committee said that they would take into consideration teams that look stronger later on than in earlier contests. You would think people with the real say over the rankings, would do simple checks to see that we lost tons of players early to the draft, starting a team full of youth, and it took time for the right pieces to get into place and get experience.

I'm not saying we should be top 10 or anything, but anybody who is not an idiot, can see that we have greatly improved. What's even better, is that we are always stronger after a bye week.

I saw somewhere that they took all of 12 hours to come up with these rankings. WTF?


Anyway, what are the big bowl games after the playoff bowls? Are there just two? Do we have a shot at either if we win out regardless of others in the West?

IMO, if we win out at 10-2, we tie for second, or finish third in the West.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:25 pm to
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LNCHBOX


I really don't get you. The team LSU fielded early in the year does not even resemble the team that LSU is putting on the field now. You keep harping on those losses....but most out there understand that LSU was very young, and figured they would get much better. It's kind of like last year when LSu beat the dog shite out of Auburn.

I think 19 is pretty bad...I was expecting somewhere around 14 or 15....but it doesn't matter.....LSU wins out they will be a top 10 team before it's over. They win out and get some help, they will be a top 4 team.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:25 pm to
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Ok, now explain Mississippi barely showing a pulse in their loss to us being number four?


They had 4 turnovers and were a play away from tying or beating us. If that game showed they had no pulse, we had just as little a pulse.

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If they are four, how is a team that dominated them in every way but the final score 19?



We have two losses, one of which was a complete domination.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:26 pm to
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I really don't get you.


I'm not retarded. I wouldn't expect you to understand unbiased logic.

:inb4youcallmeanagatiger:
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:26 pm to
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saying OM's resume is great because they have a "good loss"


Nobody is saying that. Ole Miss has a win against a top 6 team. Any reference to their loss is pointing out they don't have a crippling Va Tech loss like LSU. Comprehend better.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:27 pm to
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But prior to the season, the committee said that they would take into consideration teams that look stronger later on than in earlier contests. You would think people with the real say over the rankings, would do simple checks to see that we lost tons of players early to the draft, starting a team full of youth, and it took time for the right pieces to get into place and get experience.


One game doesn't erase two bad losses. We have an opportunity to improve, but we have to actually do it first.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22408 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:27 pm to
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But prior to the season, the committee said that they would take into consideration teams that look stronger later on than in earlier contests.


But what's your complaint? You've lost twice. You're not in the national title picture. You won't be unless by some act of God you win the SEC.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:27 pm to
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but I think his ranking of us at #6 may be a little too generous
that ranking is not about the "body of work" but how teams are playing right now, which is exactly what we were told to justify putting bama in the NCG.

it cant simply ignore the two losses, but LSU starts 4 freshman, 9 sophomores, 6 juniors, and 3 seniors, and look at the growth over the past 4 games

Auburn - blown out
Florida - win on the road against a talented though inept team
Kentucky - 31-3 over a rising program that gave Miss State a fight on Saturday
Ole Miss - number 24 beat up number 3 in almost every way possible

there is a very clear momentum here, the team is getting better by the snap. im hoping people will open their eyes after LSU drills bama, so i wont freak out until then.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:28 pm to
If you're making a case based on wins over Kentucky and Florida then you don't have a case.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:28 pm to
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Also since you're talking about no facts, why don't you provide some facts to back up your claim about OM's resume being so great. A win over one ranked team and a close loss to #19 doesn't make it so.



You've yet to name one team that can objectively be shown to have a better resume. Burden of proof is on you.
Posted by Tigerinthehollow
Madison, MS
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:29 pm to
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OM's resume being so great. A win over one ranked team and a close loss to #19 doesn't make it so.



That's a fact. I don't know what's up with this dude lately. He at one time was positive on LSU...now that LSU has turned the corner, he is trying to shite on them everyday. OM has a poor resume. That is why I thought LSU had a great chance to beat them. They beat Alabama, that is it....period.....Tenn? Boise? Vandy? ULL? Memphis? I mean come on......They have played two good teams, and are 1-1. LSU has played 4 good teams, and KY has been a very competitive team against everyone but LSU....
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
45041 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:29 pm to
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Posted by bigpapamac


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Not many. They've got a win over a top 6 team and a "quality" road loss. Seems like some people on here forget that LSU has lost twice and aren't in the playoff picture.


Looks like I'm comprehending just fine.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:29 pm to
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So you're blaming ESPN and on your own little personal crusade because you think they're responsible for creating a playoff?


ESPN, more so than any other venue, has steered college football for over a decade.

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And if you don't think the playoff will make the game better you're probably just a joyless pit of sorrow.


For passive, doesn't give a shite about any particular program but watches football with buddies on Saturday while flipping channels and wants another bracket to frick around with...yeah, it probably will. Anyone who has loved college football as we've come to know it for the past 75+ years...no, I don't.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:30 pm to
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That's a fact


Prove it. Name a team with a better resume that isn't ahead of them already.

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He at one time was positive on LSU...now that LSU has turned the corner, he is trying to shite on them everyday.


Wrong.

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OM has a poor resume.


Wrong.

Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22408 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:31 pm to
Again, the basis for Ole Miss having a good resume, as good as almost any 1-loss team, is that they have a top 6 win over Alabama and they didn't lose to USC like Arizona or VT like OSU. Nobody has answered our question, who among the 1-loss contenders would you rank above Ole Miss?
Posted by YouAre8Up
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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:31 pm to
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22408 posts
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:33 pm to
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He at one time was positive on LSU...now that LSU has turned the corner, he is trying to shite on them everyday.


How does saying Ole Miss has as good a resume as anybody contending for the top 4 have anything in the world to do with trying to "shite" on LSU?

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OM has a poor resume


For the love of God, if you keep saying this, tell us who among the contenders has one better and should be above them.
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