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re: Ole Miss SHOULD be over BAMA.. But OK over LSU?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:01 am to Meldedee
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:01 am to Meldedee
I'll try to play devil's advocate.
If I'm a lazy voter, I don't have time to compare victories. It's way easier to just compare the losses, there's fewer of them.
We all know how LSU's losses went down. Look at the box scores of the Sooners losses:
1 2 3 4 Total
OU 14 10 7 2 33
TCU 14 10 7 6 37
1 2 3 4 Total
KSt 7 14 10 0 31
OU 7 10 7 6 30
Choose either one, and a lot of reasonable, but lazy, voters might say one them sort of equates to the Miss St loss. Compare either one to the Auburn loss. OU just doesn't have that bad of a loss, to date.
Hence, the over-simplified lazy voter process is: rank teams you don't care about by number of losses. The tiebreaker for equal number of losses is: bad losses vs respectable losses.
I want to emphasize that this in not my process, but how I think a lazy (or strapped-for-time or just plain old stupid) person might do it.
If I'm a lazy voter, I don't have time to compare victories. It's way easier to just compare the losses, there's fewer of them.
We all know how LSU's losses went down. Look at the box scores of the Sooners losses:
1 2 3 4 Total
OU 14 10 7 2 33
TCU 14 10 7 6 37
1 2 3 4 Total
KSt 7 14 10 0 31
OU 7 10 7 6 30
Choose either one, and a lot of reasonable, but lazy, voters might say one them sort of equates to the Miss St loss. Compare either one to the Auburn loss. OU just doesn't have that bad of a loss, to date.
Hence, the over-simplified lazy voter process is: rank teams you don't care about by number of losses. The tiebreaker for equal number of losses is: bad losses vs respectable losses.
I want to emphasize that this in not my process, but how I think a lazy (or strapped-for-time or just plain old stupid) person might do it.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:38 am to Woodreaux
quote:
how I think a lazy (or strapped-for-time or just plain old stupid) person might do it.
I have to say I'm a little disappointed. I understand if a pollster does something like that, but a committee of 13 people that are supposed to debate everything and follow a strict process of getting rankings using objective standards shouldn't be that way.
I can only hope that maybe they rushed it after #5 or #6.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:41 am to Meldedee
quote:
OK lost Saturday, 10/25...
Actually it was the previous Saturday. They made up for it with a really good bye week.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:03 am to CheerWhine
quote:Why the hell wouldn't we? We'd all have 2 losses, and we'd have the head to head. Do you really think they're going to use margin of loss over head to head?
Unless we blow out Bama, we'll still be ranked behind them.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:01 am to TigerCub
It does not really matter. I agree that it seems odd that OU would be ahead of us, but our loss to Auburn was epically bad. That is all I can figure. If we had lost 24-14, or some such score, I bet we would be ahead of them.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:16 am to tigereye1760
lol, I wasn't going to be mute much longer on a moot point
Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:56 am to CheerWhine
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Unless we blow out Bama, we'll still be ranked behind them. We're not impressing the committee with that Auburn game on our resume, so our only chance is to win the SEC and force their hand.
If we beat Bama, we should be ranked ahead of them. We'll have also beat the other team they lost to.
Auburn game was awful, but we did start a true freshman QB on the road... Sooo, there's always that
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:22 am to Meldedee
Let me quote a semi famous politician,
"At this point, what difference does it make?"
Mid season rankings are just made up for arguing about...just win out and things will take care of themselves...
Arguing about where OK vs LSU is right now in the polls, has no bearing on the price a white beans in Fargo, ND, so what's the big freakin deal?
"At this point, what difference does it make?"
Mid season rankings are just made up for arguing about...just win out and things will take care of themselves...
Arguing about where OK vs LSU is right now in the polls, has no bearing on the price a white beans in Fargo, ND, so what's the big freakin deal?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 8:35 am to Meldedee
Oklahoma looked better in their 2 losses than we looked in our 2 losses
Posted on 10/29/14 at 9:09 am to Meldedee
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get OK over LSU when our two losses were to two teams still in the top 4. AND we have won 7. They have only won 5. ????? Don't get it
Why does this even matter... LSU is #19......
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