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Posted on 10/28/14 at 2:41 pm to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 2:41 pm to
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I am not on board with the climate change dorks, but I am definitely in the Malthusian camp on peak oil/finite fossil energy source stuff and think the infinite growth paradigm is going to die within 50 years. So, IMO, talking about this is mature, but you tend to get labeled some nazi depopulation agenda guy when you do.


I've argued Malthusian issues since the 70s. I've never encountered a Nazi jibe. Nazis wanted to kill people. Malthus simply wanted nature to take it's course. IE, disease, drought, floods, etc have always killed people. When we intervene to send food to people who live in a region where food cannot grow we upset the balance of the region's sustainability and its population.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/28/14 at 3:07 pm to
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When we intervene to send food to people who live in a region where food cannot grow we upset the balance of the region's sustainability and its population.


On the flip side, stabilization of those region's economies, political systems, and populations would allow for mechanization and technological improvements in their food production capabilities, eventually allowing such a region to feed itself many times over.

Remember, the Great Plains were once called the Great American desert because no food could be grown in the hard soil. Now, it's the breadbasket of the world thanks to technology. The same could very well happen in sub-saharan Africa, India, and Bangladesh.
There may someday come a time when innovation no longer finds a way to increase productivity, sustainability, and efficiency to keep up with population growth, but that time is not now, nor is that time even close at hand.
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