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re: Pope Francis endorses evolution and big bang
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:12 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:12 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Your claim is that the catholic church didn't exist at the time the biblical texts were written.
I'm not claiming that; it is absolute fact. But that is very different than your previous statement. I know subtleties often elude you, but that is bad even by your standards.
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The only way in which this is true is if the official church of Rome established by Constantine in the 4th century, and the one which exists today, do not represent the early Christians who wrote those books.
One has very little to do with the other. The central tenants of Christianity changed little throughout history, that doesn't mean Peter was "pope" in the way Francis is.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 7:18 pm to TK421
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I'm not claiming that; it is absolute fact.
It's a fact in semantics only. The early Christians believed what the catholic church believes.
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But that is very different than your previous statement.
No it isn't
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One has very little to do with the other. The central tenants of Christianity changed little throughout history, that doesn't mean Peter was "pope" in the way Francis is.
It has everything to do with it. If the early Christians walked, talked, worshipped and believed as catholics believe today...well, if you want to say that isn't catholic then I'll leave you to your hole.
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