Wait..what?

vs. Atlanta:
13 carries, 60 yards, 2 TDs 4.6ypc
6 carries, 28 yards, 1 TD 4.7ypc

vs. Cleveland:
11 carries, 83 yards, 1 TD 7.5ypc
8 carries, 31 yards, 3.9ypc

vs. Detroit:
10 carries, 16 yards 1.6ypc
3 carries, 26 yards, 1 FumL 8.7ypc

You guys refuse to accept the fact that YPC is not the best indicator of the better game for a RB.

Randle > Murray in YPC because he doesn't carry it as often, most of the time more carries = lower YPC, and you guys blatantly ignore the fact that Khiry fumbled it vs. Detroit leading to 3pts for detroit. That already costs him whatever advantage he had over Ingram because he costed us possession and they scored 3pts off the turnover.

Under similar scenarios, Robinson underperformed against porous run defenses (i.e. TB and Minnesota). He should have been FRESH since he only carried it 14 times in 2 games before Minnesota, right?

Since you want to use "Fresh" as an argument, he went 18 rushes for 69 yards (3.8ypc).

Minnesota was tired from 2 previous games where they were hit for:
11 rushes 43 yards (3.9ypc) - Zac Stacy
25 rushes 101 yards 1TD (4.04ypc) - Stevan Ridley

This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 12:55 am

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Posted by The Pain Train

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Posted on 10/29/14 at 2:31 am to htran90

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htran90

Wait..what?

Dang it. Here I go again having to slow things down, this time at your very request.

You seriously need to go back and read because I in no way blatantly ignored that Khiry fumbled it. When it was mentioned, I said "Yes, he did" and then questioned about the other comparable aspects of the RB's in that game, which, ironically, was blatantly ignored.

Ingram had 10 carries for 16 yards against Detroit with a long of 14 yards. What did Ingram's other 9 carries for a total of 2 yards cost the team in terms of being hurtful to drives by putting them in the hole with 2nd & longs?

The next time the Saints got the ball back after Khiry's fumble, Ingram started the drive with a -3 yard run, thus putting the offense in a hole right from the start. The Saints went 3 & out and Detroit then drove into FG range. The defense then stepped up with a sack.

Since you think the Minnesota run defense was tired after just the first two games of the season, then how do you think Green Bay's defense felt after seven games while then having to play an entire offense that just had a full week's rest just two weeks prior? There was no rest differential between the Saints offensive lines and their opponents' defensive lines for weeks 2 & 3.

Ultimately, I don't really much care how the Saints have to get the job done as my Saints fandom is greater than my desire to win an Internet argument. If that means Ingram has to end up being a true feature back, then so be it. However, at this point in time, I don't think it is necessary to ignore the talents of Khiry and Pierre as they have each shown in times past that they can get the job done and until that is proven patently false in terms of this team going forward, there is no reason not to work them into gameplans.

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