bfniii, name one area you feel Miles offensive philosophy lags or maybe is lacking....one area of improvement?

I don't disagree with all that you're saying... just trying to understand you. There is always room for improvement and what works for one game may not for the next. You take a fan like myself, who I consider to be pretty positive about my opinion and support of coach and our team and make me look like the most negative person on the board.

It's cherry picking the past and a revisionist history at times.

-"Lee before the game"

-"Malzahan last year, but not this year, and he needs 5 more years to prove himself"

-Saban's success only counts from this time frame till this one.

-The history of 2-3 quarterbacks that spent 2 years in our system and had successes in others picking up skills and offensive schemes get revised to only be credited to Miles for their spurt of success within a specific time frame.

-An overlooking of the long struggles we've had at QB over the last 5+ years--Mett being the biggest outlier here.

-A host of schools that get the job done passing slightly more (but not pass happy). Teams that include Bama, Auburn, Georgia, and other schools people would never consider anything but programs built for rushing the ball.

-A pretty much general coaching consensus from across the country, heard in almost every single analyst's reviews, preached in every level of the sport, and even heard from the lips of Miles, himself-- that striving for a balanced approach at offense is something desired.

The premise and point that the OP suggests and you suggested earlier was posted after a nice win against Ole Miss. It was not posted Saturday, September 20th, or Oct 4. It implies that Miles' choice of game plan for all the games thus far this season is sound and shouldn't be criticized based on the result of the Ole Miss game.

There is simply disagreement that probably will never be resolved, because I feel that each game is different, with different matchups. I believe we face a very skilled run D in Bama; therefore, we need a small and effective passing attack to go with our rushing. This doesn't mean we abandon Miles' good attempts of limiting mistakes, but it does say let's not be predictable. It just means I'm glad we beat Ole Miss, but I hope that we can get something going in the air to help us in the future.

I don't feel our QBs have progressed at the rate at which the other areas of the team seem to be. It is not a take down of the player. It is a mere criticism that Les' philosophy is good, but needs to evolve slightly, and that having a passing threat will help our entire offense out. Nobody is suggesting we become a Pac team. But we are halfway through the season and we need to see improvement at the position, and if it isn't coming along nicely, maybe the staff should re-organize their thoughts and approach it differently.

Always room for improvement.

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Posted by bfniii

Member since Nov 2005

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Posted on 10/28/14 at 2:42 pm to marklsu

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name one area you feel Miles offensive philosophy lags or maybe is lacking

i'm not concerned with nitpicking. i'm concerned with winning. negas can't see the forest because they're focused on the trees.
miles mitigates risk on offense vs how the defense and special teams are doing. he's better at this than anybody except for saban. and that's why he wins so many games. i don't go to the game, sit back with my arms folded and a frown on my face saying ok miles, impress me with your offense scheme. negas aren't satisfied with winning. they want to win a certain kind of way, which is ridiculous.

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Lee before the game"

the point is still valid. lee clearly and objectively improved from '08 to '11

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Malzahan last year, but not this year,

that's not what i said. I said this season isn't over and they have some tough games left. They might end up not being any better than lsu.

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and he needs 5 more years to prove himself"

i didn't say that. I said he needs to produce elite results for AT LEAST 5 more years before he is even in the conversation of being as good as miles

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-Saban's success only counts from this time frame till this one.

i didn't say that. I said saban is the best, period. Yeah, it stings being second but, miles has been brilliant in 9 seasons.

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-The history of 2-3 quarterbacks that spent 2 years in our system and had successes in others picking up skills and offensive schemes get revised to only be credited to Miles for their spurt of success within a specific time frame.

not following this point

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-An overlooking of the long struggles we've had at QB over the last 5+ years--Mett being the biggest outlier here.

i've already responded to this multiple times. It's mistaken

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-A host of schools that get the job done passing slightly more (but not pass happy). Teams that include Bama, Auburn, Georgia, and other schools people would never consider anything but programs built for rushing the ball.

this is frustrating. Auburn and georgia have had losing seasons. Auburn's coach got fired. Auburn's miraculous season does not show that their system is better than what miles is doing. Malzahn hasn't proven himself to be better than miles. Georgia doesn't win more than miles and they're in the east for crying out loud.

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A pretty much general coaching consensus from across the country, heard in almost every single analyst's reviews, preached in every level of the sport, and even heard from the lips of Miles, himself-- that striving for a balanced approach at offense is something desired.

what makes you think miles isn't striving for this? I've pointed out proof that he will throw when the situation is appropriate. You people act like miles is just incompetent and has no memory

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It implies that Miles' choice of game plan for all the games thus far this season is sound and shouldn't be criticized based on the result of the Ole Miss game.

i haven't implied this. But, state didn't beat us because they had a superior game plan/play calls. They beat us because they have 18 returning starters and lsu is in transition. That will change next season. Miles has already proven himself against mullen. It's a similar situation with auburn. The rest miles has won.