Russell and Flynn joined the Tigers in 2003 under Nick Saban. Two years in the system before Miles in 2005. I absolutely hate mentioning this fact, because others abuse it. I would say Miles contributed to their successes, but is not the developer.

Perriloux--- Coulda, shoulda, woulda. Almost every QB under Miles' tenure has been decorated with stars. Bringing Perriloux up is a moot point. Fact is, we never got to really see him flourish. He possibly could be an exception, but it doesn't help your cause to bring him up.

Lee- so I say he was decent or ok. Well...would you argue that Les' handling of his tenure was perfect? Did Les really do him any justice in his development? I liked the kid. You are shooting yourself in the foot if you use him as an example of Les capitalizing on his skills as a QB developer.

Mettenberger was skilled at QB before his entrance at LSU. He went to Georgia (where they have a good history of developing QBs). He was in very intense QB competition with Aaron Murray for a starting position, next he led his JUCO team to a National Championship before transferring to LSU. What are you trying to say here? That Les was such a good QB developer that he erased Mettenberger's previous achievements and re-wrote the book? The passing game in 2011 and 2012 was a success in spite of Les' offensive philosophy. Do you not remember how Cam opened things up because of Mettenberger/Landry/Beckham's capabilities?

Your argument is that Les' offensive strategy of I-formation, run run run is effective and all that is needed. Or am I mistaken?

Don't get me wrong, Les Miles is a good coach and a great ambassador. He has MANY strengths. A testament to his effectiveness can be freshened in my mind every time I look at Will Muschamp. Les has been very effective at LSU. But he has not proven to be a great developer of the QB position and is not a brilliant Xs and Os guy.

I don't believe his has to be 100%, hands-down an offensive genius, and I am EXTREMELY happy how we controlled Ole Miss. I would simply argue, that I hope Jennings and Harris can progress and be developed, and frankly, helped out from time to time with some play calling. It's essential that we develop a credible passing threat, so BUGA can thrive easily.

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Posted by AGENT225

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Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:15 pm to marklsu

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Do you not remember how Cam opened things up because of Mettenberger/Landry/Beckham's capabilities?

Cam did not open things up. It only seemed that way because of the results. Here is my reply to another poster in a previous thread:

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I guess perception is everything. Mettenberger had the most pass attempts of any QB since Flynn in the 2012-13 season(352). He actually threw the ball @ 2.5 times less per game in 2013-14(296 attempts in 12 games). The offense was not wide open. It was ridiculously efficient. Mettenberger threw 10 more tds vs 1 more int on 56 fewer pass attempts. He also raised his completion % about 8 pts to @ 66%.

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Posted by bfniii

Member since Nov 2005

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Posted on 10/27/14 at 4:22 pm to marklsu

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I would say Miles contributed to their successes, but is not the developer

semantics. miles put them in position to start and be successful

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Perriloux--- Coulda, shoulda, woulda.

? you must have missed the seccg. miles got him there.

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You are shooting yourself in the foot if you use him as an example of Les capitalizing on his skills as a QB developer

totally wrong. look at lee '08 and '11. totally different players.

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Mettenberger was skilled at QB before his entrance at LSU

my gosh you people will say anything to disparage miles. look at mett '12 vs '13. objectively, clearly, obviously better.

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Your argument is that Les' offensive strategy of I-formation, run run run is effective and all that is needed. Or am I mistaken?

check my post history. my point all along has been that miles mitigates risk on offense vs defense and special teams. sometimes that looks like '13, sometimes it looks like 2010.