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re: Is 14 about the age you should start working out with weights?
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:54 pm to tgrbaitn08
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:54 pm to tgrbaitn08
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and HGH
Nah, that's for me.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:55 pm to GumboPot
I see no issue with a 14 yr old getting into lifting weights with proper training and form teaching etc. Get him into everything, bench squats cleans get them biceps and tris for the ladies.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 2:56 pm to GumboPot
I started at age 14 for football. Did all of your typical lifts. Only repped with the bar until I learned basic techniques then started slowly adding weights to avoid getting bad techniques.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:00 pm to Murray
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He should only be doing seated, behind the neck military press until he's 16.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:13 pm to GumboPot
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Just looking for a recommendation for an off season workout plan for my 14 year old. His sport is baseball and he's a pitcher. He plans on working the winter break with a couple of coaches but I'm thinking that it may be time to supplement his practice with some weight training. Any workout plan recommendations from the OT?
Sure, this is what I do for a living. He needs to learn and master some core lifts: Front Squat, Back Squat(assuming no serious elbow or shoulder problems) and Deadlift(or variations). Baseball players benefit much more from upper body exercises that allow free movement of the scapula like pushups. I don't really like barbell bench press for baseball athletes but it wouldn't hurt him(it just isn't that functional).
He doesn't need to do a body building routine, he needs to develop full body strength using free weight exercises with proper form. I would also caution against only using powerlifting form for squats(low bar).
*DO NOT MAKE HIM RUN DISTANCE. If he wants to condition, make him do sprints
Posted on 10/21/14 at 3:21 pm to GumboPot
Get him a fricking 26.2 sticker RIGHT NOW.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:00 pm to The Mick
Exactly what that bama guy said.
At his age, you want to focus more on core strength and muscle control. He's just getting into puberty and his body is growing and going through changes like crazy.
His testosterone will be blazing before long, so be very careful with heavy lifting. If he's eating close to right, his muscles will respond. If he's going too hard, it can easily create injuries that you want to avoid.
Because he will be in peak testosterone production soon, his muscles can grow a lot faster than his tendons can support. Too much lifting and you can set your child up for a lifetime of tendonitis and/or arthritis.
Focus or core and basic lifts, especially squats. Depending on how he matures and develops, 16 to 17 he can step it up a notch or 2.
At his age, you want to focus more on core strength and muscle control. He's just getting into puberty and his body is growing and going through changes like crazy.
His testosterone will be blazing before long, so be very careful with heavy lifting. If he's eating close to right, his muscles will respond. If he's going too hard, it can easily create injuries that you want to avoid.
Because he will be in peak testosterone production soon, his muscles can grow a lot faster than his tendons can support. Too much lifting and you can set your child up for a lifetime of tendonitis and/or arthritis.
Focus or core and basic lifts, especially squats. Depending on how he matures and develops, 16 to 17 he can step it up a notch or 2.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:19 pm to Austin Cajun
Seriously, get him Crossover Symmetry NOW. Nothing preps the shoulder and prevents injury like this (that I've found). Big baseball focus there.
Crossover Symmetry
This will be supplemental to what I hope will be a program focused on core lifts (squat, dead, press, bench) and creating a stable trunk.
Starting strength was made for your situation. Have him start with a humblingly light weight and add 5lbs per workout until the PR's stop coming.
At his age, the goal is not to get super strong super fast, but capitalize on the novice effect and pave the way for serious gains post 16.
Crossover Symmetry
This will be supplemental to what I hope will be a program focused on core lifts (squat, dead, press, bench) and creating a stable trunk.
Starting strength was made for your situation. Have him start with a humblingly light weight and add 5lbs per workout until the PR's stop coming.
At his age, the goal is not to get super strong super fast, but capitalize on the novice effect and pave the way for serious gains post 16.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:23 pm to GumboPot
Yes but work on the basics and gpp before doing any specificity training. Look up juggernaut training systems. Chad Wesley smith knows his stuff.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:37 pm to lsucoonass
Just to add, lifting weights, much like pitching and hitting, is technical. I would look to find a qualified coach to teach the lifts. There is merit to starting earlier than even 14 because kids will learn the lifts. Like others have said, puberty is when strength levels start to spike up BUT it helps to have mastered the form of core exercises first so that they can properly load and progress in those exercises from the start.
Also keep in mind most Joe Blow football and baseball coaches do not know how to teach lifts.
Also keep in mind most Joe Blow football and baseball coaches do not know how to teach lifts.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:42 pm to GumboPot
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He plans on working the winter break with a couple of coaches
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:44 pm to GumboPot
No bullshite look into the Bigger, Faster, Stronger routines and teach him each lift's proper technique.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:47 pm to bamafan1001
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DO NOT MAKE HIM RUN DISTANCE. If he wants to condition, make him do sprints
Pitchers run distance all the time. It's how they condition after pitching to assist in lactic acid movement out of the muscles. You can look at any big league team and they will have each of their pitchers running mileage, not sprints.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:47 pm to bamafan1001
Oh I absolutely agree. I also believe too many parents want to make their children all stars at too early an age and focus on wins rather than learning the mechanics.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:48 pm to LSUfan20005
Great recommendation with starting strength. Rippetoe is good
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:50 pm to bamafan1001
I should have clarified this and go into more depth. You hit the nail on the head
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:53 pm to GumboPot
You definitely need to make sure he's doing kegel exercises to improve his stamina while he's on the mound.
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:53 pm to lsucoonass
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Great recommendation with starting strength. Rippetoe is good
Posted on 10/21/14 at 4:55 pm to GumboPot
Lock him in a car with a cougar...
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