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re: Govt tells Christian ministers: Perform same-sex weddings or face jail, fines

Posted on 10/20/14 at 9:23 am to
Posted by Vegas Bengal
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 9:23 am to
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There is no way that story is true. Toddy assured us for years that churches and ministers would not be forced to marry homosexuals.


It hasn't happened. This isn't a church. And no gay couple has asked to be married by these ministers or in their "chapel".

The city attorney told them that since they run a for profit business and the city has a public accommodation law the chapel may fall under it:

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“If you turn away a gay couple, refuse to provide services for them, then in theory you violated our code and you’re looking at a potential misdemeanor citation,” Wilson said.


It's not clear if he meant they'd have to officiate. But in any case it's an opinion of a city attorney attempting to give advice on his interpretation of the law and he used the words "in theory". I think the plaintiffs here are jumping the gun. And I doubt any judge would force a minister to perform a gay wedding... And that's what we said.

Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
127355 posts
Posted on 10/20/14 at 9:26 am to
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It hasn't happened. This isn't a church.
Are they ordained ministers? Yes, they are.

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And no gay couple has asked to be married by these ministers or in their "chapel".
Irrelevant to my post. The GOVERNMENT is forcing them to perform homosexual marriages if asked to do so.

You try too hard to refute obvious facts.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 9:57 am to
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And I doubt any judge would force a minister to perform a gay wedding...


Would you vocally oppose such efforts to do so?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/20/14 at 10:15 am to
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This isn't a church.
It is an establishment of religion.
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And I doubt any judge would force a minister to perform a gay wedding... And that's what we said.
So we've migrated from discussions you and I have had where this would """never""" happen, to the point you """doubt""" a judge would force a minister to perform a religious service against his will.

This comes on the heels of Houston.
Now I've sustained quite a bit of criticism in saying going after churches was always the intended "next-shoe-to-drop". It's the activist goal. It has been the goal. I suspect there are folks here who know that. As late as this week, ballcaster was dismissive of the suggestion.

Yet here we are, and earlier than I expected frankly.



This post was edited on 10/20/14 at 10:18 am
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