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re: Women want equal pay? Stop babysitting
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:04 am to snake23
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:04 am to snake23
I think the real reason for the pay difference is 3 fold:
1. women work fewer hours on average then men. They simply take more time off.
2. There are fewer women applicants in many high-paying fields (Construction, Engineering, IT, oil & gas, trades, ect)
3. Women lose time at a job and work experience while having kids. This puts them behind their male co-workers who don't have to (nor have the option to) take that time off to have children.
This leads to a "pay gap", when in reality, when working the same job and the same number of hours, women are generally paid the same or MORE.
1. women work fewer hours on average then men. They simply take more time off.
2. There are fewer women applicants in many high-paying fields (Construction, Engineering, IT, oil & gas, trades, ect)
3. Women lose time at a job and work experience while having kids. This puts them behind their male co-workers who don't have to (nor have the option to) take that time off to have children.
This leads to a "pay gap", when in reality, when working the same job and the same number of hours, women are generally paid the same or MORE.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 9:05 am to kingbob
I always am so disappointed to hear my friends talking about this, and actually believing it. If you can pay women 30% less or whatever, why not ONLY hire women?
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:06 am to kingbob
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I think the real reason for the pay difference is 3 fold:
1. women work fewer hours on average then men. They simply take more time off.
2. There are fewer women applicants in many high-paying fields (Construction, Engineering, IT, oil & gas, trades, ect)
3. Women lose time at a job and work experience while having kids. This puts them behind their male co-workers who don't have to (nor have the option to) take that time off to have children.
This leads to a "pay gap", when in reality, when working the same job and the same number of hours, women are generally paid the same or MORE.
agree with this, in my experience women don't want to work, they want the prestige of the title of the job, but they don't want to put in the sweat equity to get there, they always want short cuts, when they finally get there, they do everything they can to minimize time at the work place, start squirting out babies, and usually "retire" early, my ex-sil was a ME undergrad, got a real nice internship at a huge engineering firm, they liked her, paid for her to stay in school and get a masters, then hired her, she got pregnant, quit, and hasn't worked a day since(over 20 years,) I'm sure there more than a few other stories like this
Posted on 10/18/14 at 10:08 am to kingbob
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I think the real reason for the pay difference is 3 fold:
These are the reasons, but I am just going to play devil's advocate here for a sec.
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1. women work fewer hours on average then men. They simply take more time off.
Because many are still expected to take care of kids and do housework, despite working similar hours to their husband/SO.
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2. There are fewer women applicants in many high-paying fields (Construction, Engineering, IT, oil & gas, trades, ect)
Because we discourage girls from entering STEM fields almost from the time they are born.
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3. Women lose time at a job and work experience while having kids.
This is the one sticking point.
Posted on 10/18/14 at 12:23 pm to kingbob
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3. Women lose time at a job and work experience while having kids. This puts them behind their male co-workers who don't have to (nor have the option to) take that time off to have children.
this is the big difference-maker. it's why abortion is such a sacred cow of feminists. thomas sowell was doing work on this back in the 70s
in the same field, there is no pay gap if a woman hasn't had kids.
1 and 2 do contribute, but 3 is the big one that skews everything
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