It has nothing to do with psychology or subjective observation and everything to do with storytelling the narrative, which only support one outcome.

Because...

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People WANT to believe she dropped it on purpose based on inferences and emotional interpretations is what I see.

People want to believe that everyone loves sports. That everyone puts winning above everything else. That every game MUST, beyond all reasonable doubt, REQUIRE that everyone gives 100%, 100% of the time. And that any failure to be 100% motivated for the sake of victory means that the entire "game," figurative and literal, is meaningless.

Kit Truthers see no other outcomes except for one based on a 100% FOR THE WIN scenario. To them, winning and trying to win shape their entire experience of the movie, which is funny because that's precisely what the movie is about, that choosing to "let go," (unknown's point) is more important for the Hero of the movie. They literally cannot see past a scenario where someone doesn't want to win. Because then the movie loses all meaning.

Dottie must want to win. She must try to the very end. Life is meaningless without trying to win.

But that's just it, Dottie made a choice that winning wasn't everything to her. That it was more important to someone she loved dearly. She didn't choose to lose, she chose to "not win," and there's a big difference.

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The context and substance don't show that at all.

"Sometimes, you have to let your little brother win."

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Posted by ChewyDante

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Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:29 pm to Freauxzen

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"Sometimes, you have to let your little brother win."

Not responding to all the rest of that on my phone, but this likewise does not indicate she dropped the ball on purpose. I love all these lofty and thought out ideals that motivated Dottie, but not until the moment Kit rounded third...

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Posted on 10/17/14 at 1:29 pm to Freauxzen

The person I feel most sorry for is Hacksaw Jim Duggan. He didnt even get to nail Dottie.

She single handedly returned his faith in baseball, in women, in life. He quit drinking and cared about the game. He even gave up a job coaching AAA to stay on and she lost that game on purpose and he knew it.

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Posted by ChewyDante

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Posted on 10/17/14 at 5:16 pm to Freauxzen

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People want to believe that everyone loves sports. That everyone puts winning above everything else. That every game MUST, beyond all reasonable doubt, REQUIRE that everyone gives 100%, 100% of the time. And that any failure to be 100% motivated for the sake of victory means that the entire "game," figurative and literal, is meaningless.

Kit Truthers see no other outcomes except for one based on a 100% FOR THE WIN scenario. To them, winning and trying to win shape their entire experience of the movie, which is funny because that's precisely what the movie is about, that choosing to "let go," (unknown's point) is more important for the Hero of the movie. They literally cannot see past a scenario where someone doesn't want to win. Because then the movie loses all meaning.

Dottie must want to win. She must try to the very end. Life is meaningless without trying to win.

But that's just it, Dottie made a choice that winning wasn't everything to her. That it was more important to someone she loved dearly. She didn't choose to lose, she chose to "not win," and there's a big difference.

Now that I'm home, I just want to say that I think most all of this is bullshite.