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re: CDC head slammed for blaming nurse infected with Ebola

Posted on 10/14/14 at 7:39 am to
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35497 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 7:39 am to
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Freiden additionally referenced intubation, mechanical ventilation and dialysis as "unusual care" and risky. I have no idea WTF he was thinking in making those statements. Both of those are used routinely. Both are use in cases involving infectious disease. both are used under long-established protocols.
And both are specifically referenced in CDC documents to be avoided. When it is absolutely necessary there are additional requirements.
quote:

Aerosol Generating Procedures (AGPs)
Avoid AGPs for patients with EVD.
If performing AGPs, use a combination of measures to reduce exposures from aerosol-generating procedures when performed on Ebola HF patients.
Visitors should not be present during aerosol-generating procedures.
Limiting the number of HCP present during the procedure to only those essential for patient-care and support.
Conduct the procedures in a private room and ideally in an Airborne Infection Isolation Room (AIIR) when feasible. Room doors should be kept closed during the procedure except when entering or leaving the room, and entry and exit should be minimized during and shortly after the procedure.
etc
CDC Ebola Protocols
This post was edited on 10/14/14 at 7:40 am
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124410 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:44 am to
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And both are specifically referenced in CDC documents to be avoided. When it is absolutely necessary there are additional requirements.
Right.
The problem being Intubation/Ventilation is not only NOT an AGP, it generates a sealed system preventing aerosol production/distribution. IOW it eliminates aerosol risk as compared to an unsecured airway.

Dialysis has nothing whatsoever to do with AGP's.

Both procedures are performed as lifesaving in instances of massive infection. Without them, the patient dies.

Again, I have no idea WTF Frieden was referencing as "risky" in this case. To be blunt, neither does Frieden. He is an embarrassment.

Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 10/14/14 at 8:46 am to
Dearest Tuba

The causation of disease and the handling of a disease situation are two different things. NOBODY is accusing Obama of causing Ebola.

Why do you insist upon engaging in ridiculous, nonsensical hyperbole in order to avoid discussing the actual facts of a matter? In this particular instance, Obama's HANDLING of this disease situation is a legitimate, debatable matter. Personally, I think he is being far too passive. will his passivity come back to bite him in the butt? I hope not, because none of us wants this disease to spread.

In the meantime, tuba, how about leaving the stupid hyperbole in your weak little mind where it belongs?
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