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re: Eric Holder's Going-Away Gift To Muslim-Americans

Posted on 9/28/14 at 7:45 am to
Posted by trackfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/28/14 at 7:45 am to
I guess a lot of folks here aren't fans of the 1st Amendment.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53821 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 7:59 am to
quote:

I guess a lot of folks here aren't fans of the 1st Amendment.


We're fans of common sense.

If Terrorism becomes a common issue here, we're done as a country.

Muslims are the one's creating all the hate/havoc.. It is what it is
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
35054 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 10:25 am to
quote:

I guess a lot of folks here aren't fans of the 1st Amendment.


Which justice was it who said "The Constitution is not a suicide pact"?






edit. already posted
This post was edited on 9/28/14 at 10:31 am
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 11:05 am to
quote:

I guess a lot of folks here aren't fans of the 1st Amendment.
The right to free speech doesn't mean you get the right to have your speech ignored by the government. In fact it implies just the opposite, that government will listen to your speech and give it the proper consideration. If in that consideration, government determines there is a threat to the safety of others, then government has an obligation to take reasonable measures to protect the safety of those others. Thus, it is imperative that Government pays attention to the speech of all who express threats to the safety of others. This includes monitoring how the speech has influence on others. As such, monitoring religious groups is as necessary as monitoring other groups that express dangerous ideas.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

guess a lot of folks here aren't fans of the 1st Amendment.


you mean the right to plan terrorist acts under the guise of freedom of religion?

I suppose it does allow a certain latitude, but on the other hand, non-Americans on our soil have no right at all really, just because idiots like you want to grant it to them doesn't mean they have it.

Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91219 posts
Posted on 9/28/14 at 2:06 pm to
I don't understand people's outrage over this.

I think it's a good idea, at least based on what you quoted it sounds like it is. You shouldn't be targeted just because of a religion, race, etc. There should be hard evidence to justify surveillance.

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
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