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Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:14 pm to mouton
quote:My point is their silence in response to these incidents implies tacit approval. Hence, it lumps them all together.
My point is most Muslims are not radicals and everyone wants to lump them all together.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:16 pm to NC_Tigah
Imans and everyday Muslims here and around the world are condemning Isis.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:23 pm to mouton
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Imans and everyday Muslims here and around the world are condemning Isis.
Only because Isis is killing other Muslims.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:24 pm to mouton
quote:They're arriving just a smidgen late to the show my friend.
Imans and everyday Muslims here and around the world are condemning Isis.
So back to your premise, re: how many Muslims in the US.
Any reaction among those many US Muslims to their fellows celebrating the Oklahoma beheading?
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 9:26 pm
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:27 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
My point is their silence in response to these incidents implies tacit approval. Hence, it lumps them all together.
Do you believe that all Muslims should be judged collectively for what a few do?
EDIT: What do you mean by "silence"? Should they all be standing on street corners a la Paul Revere condemning ISIS?
This post was edited on 9/26/14 at 9:29 pm
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:31 pm to NC_Tigah
This just happened so who knows. Do you know any Muslims , because every Muslim I know and I know a few has adamantly condemned radical Islam since 9/11.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:40 pm to trackfan
quote:I'm not the collectively judging type.
Do you believe that all Muslims should be judged collectively for what a few do?
quote:Seriously?
What do you mean by "silence"?
Really?
What do you think I mean by silence?
I mean Muslim leaders, and the Muslim Community in general, has been less vocal about horrors supposedly committed in the name of their religion than AlSharpton and JessieJackson have been about atrocities in Chicago's indigent Black Community.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 9:55 pm to mouton
quote:Let's take that anecdote to its logical conclusion. Has their Imam adamantly condemned radical Islam since 9/11?
every Muslim I know and I know a few has adamantly condemned radical Islam since 9/11.
If not, why? and why do they support him?
If so, link us to the publication, media outlet, etc where he made those pronouncements.
quote:The Muslim Community here is probably 20X larger than Savannah's. I'd guess our exposure is likely proportional.
Do you know any Muslims
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:24 pm to NC_Tigah
You seem to equate not speaking out as condoning.
Posted on 9/26/14 at 10:27 pm to mouton
quote:Au contraire.
You seem to equate not speaking out as condoning.
You seem to equate not speaking out as opposing.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 5:18 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
I'm not the collectively judging type.
You absolutely are?
quote:
I mean Muslim leaders, and the Muslim Community in general, has been less vocal about horrors supposedly committed in the name of their religion than AlSharpton and JessieJackson have been about atrocities in Chicago's indigent Black Community.
1) Since you obviously consider Sharpton and Jackson the unofficial spokesmen for all Black folks, I think it's only fair that you also tell us who you consider to be the unofficial spokesmen for Muslims, White people, Jewish people, etc. so that I can tell whether you're applying your own standard consistently.
2) Sharpton and Jackson may speak out against Black-on-Black crime in the U.S., but I don't hear them speaking out about crimes committed by Blacks in Africa.
3) Do you expect the Muslim-American spokespersons to speak out against all Muslims crimes world-wide, or just crimes committed by Muslims in the U.S.?
4) What about Whites and Jews, are their spokespersons also expected to speak out when the bad elements among them commit a crime?
This post was edited on 9/27/14 at 5:20 am
Posted on 9/27/14 at 5:22 am to mouton
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You seem to equate not speaking out as condoning.
That's exactly what he's doing, and he only seems to do this for Muslims?
Posted on 9/27/14 at 5:24 am to NC_Tigah
quote:
Let's take that anecdote to its logical conclusion. Has their Imam adamantly condemned radical Islam since 9/11?
Which Imam and what do you mean by adamantly?
Posted on 9/27/14 at 7:52 am to trackfan
Trackfan, why do you belittle and flame away at the Catholic Church (thread you started recently) but give this shite a pass? It's getting rediculous!
Posted on 9/27/14 at 8:07 am to Paluka
Trackfan and Mouton would look good in an orange jumpsuit, condemning the US on video.
Posted on 9/27/14 at 8:14 am to FooManChoo
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There's been a lot of nothing, which leads people to think that they quietly support those actions.
Uhhh... I hate to break it to you, but they DO quietly and not so quietly support those actions. Islam is a death cult of massive proportions. Wake up!
Posted on 9/27/14 at 8:36 am to REG861
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It's sad that Islamic empires were quite civilized, tolerant, and scientifically advanced while Middle Aged Christian Europe was a barbaric shitshow ...
Pre-Muhammad, this was true.
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