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Manual or automatic tranny in a 4WD?
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:06 am
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:06 am
Since the manual transmission seems to be going the way of the dinosaur, I was wondering which transmission most of yall prefer. My old CJ5 had an 8 speed manual and so does my old workhorse Ram 1500. I prefer a manual transmission for off road and going up these mountain trails, and driving in snow and ice. I have more "control" and a better "feel" for the terrain in a manual than I have in an automatic. Plus, to me, a manual in off road conditions seems to have better traction. I wonder if, in a test, identical trucks, same driver, same setup, same tires, which vehicle would have better traction: auto or manual. I could be wrong, been wrong lots of times, but I'm putting my money on the manual.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:25 am to BFIV
I'd get a manual but bridges scare me
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:36 am to BFIV
I have had both in newer jeep wranglers - preferred the auto, much easier to hill climb with 2 pedals than 3.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:39 am to BFIV
Auto's are so good now I'd take an auto 9 times out of 9
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:34 am to BFIV
I don't really go looking for trails to tear up. Off roading I do is pretty much whatever it takes to take care of a few things on my land or at the camp. I need decent clearance, good tires, and four wheel drive. I prefer an automatic for off roading - especially if it involves towing.
The newer Silverado, Suburban and Tahoe have hill start assist and hill descent control. I think Jeep's Grand Cherokee and most Land Cruisers have that as well. It seems to eliminate the drawback of an automatic for most practical off road stituations - especially with a trailer in tow.
20 years ago I'd have said that a manual transmission, manual lockers, and manual transfer cases were ideal. Today the newer systems, newer automatics are just as good and just as reliable....and the new electronic aids give you plenty of control over what the car is doing. My Silverado can also start off in 2nd gear with the automatic if I'm worried about breaking traction, I'm almost certain that the Fords and Toyotas do that as well.
I don't see as much of an advantage of a manual anymore these days.
The newer Silverado, Suburban and Tahoe have hill start assist and hill descent control. I think Jeep's Grand Cherokee and most Land Cruisers have that as well. It seems to eliminate the drawback of an automatic for most practical off road stituations - especially with a trailer in tow.
20 years ago I'd have said that a manual transmission, manual lockers, and manual transfer cases were ideal. Today the newer systems, newer automatics are just as good and just as reliable....and the new electronic aids give you plenty of control over what the car is doing. My Silverado can also start off in 2nd gear with the automatic if I'm worried about breaking traction, I'm almost certain that the Fords and Toyotas do that as well.
I don't see as much of an advantage of a manual anymore these days.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 10:42 am
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:51 am to BFIV
I love driving a manual and prefer towing with one.
If you want to break stuff, manual>auto
Otherwise, auto with a manual shift option is the shite.
If you want to break stuff, manual>auto
Otherwise, auto with a manual shift option is the shite.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 10:52 am to BFIV
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tranny
Unfortunately, this word no longer means "transmission."
But, to answer your question, manny.
This post was edited on 9/12/14 at 10:54 am
Posted on 9/12/14 at 11:25 am to BFIV
Being able to hold a gear is great. Shifting while trying to spin the tires in the mud is not. Some autos will hold a gear, but a lot of them shift regardless what you do to the stick. If you know what you're doing with a manual in the mud, it is fine. I choose manual because I don't go through long mud holes that require more than one gear
Posted on 9/12/14 at 1:39 pm to BFIV
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BFIV
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I prefer a manual transmission for off road and going up these mountain trails, and driving in snow and ice.
your old school like that.. not I, sir.. no way
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old workhorse Ram 1500
Posted on 9/12/14 at 2:18 pm to BFIV
" My old CJ5 had an 8 speed manual". No that didn't happen from the factory and I don't know of any aftermarket ever made for this application. Another questionable "tranny"
Posted on 9/12/14 at 4:24 pm to BFIV
It depends on the application. Rock crawling and trails I'd probably go manual, automatic for pretty much everything else. You have more control with a manual and more torque multiplication with an automatic. Can get manual valve bodies for just about any older automatic that's popular and they are easy enough to bolt in. Big issue is cooling and changing the fluid out on a regular basis.
Posted on 9/12/14 at 5:23 pm to BFIV
i got a gm350/700r4/dana 300 ready for whatever you need to throw at it/it in.
700r4 has OD which wasn't available in the th300 or th400. it's a beast of a transmission and even beastier because i put high output/input shafts in it. i also added SYE to the dana 300 and a clock ring. could be yours for whatever you're building!
700r4 has OD which wasn't available in the th300 or th400. it's a beast of a transmission and even beastier because i put high output/input shafts in it. i also added SYE to the dana 300 and a clock ring. could be yours for whatever you're building!
Posted on 9/12/14 at 9:49 pm to BFIV
I have a 6 speed in my 2012 Rubicon JKU. Love it. I can put it in 4L and 1st and get out and walk around it while it creeps. Plus it is fun as hell to drive with the new Pentastar V6.
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