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re: So Asians make more money on average than whites in the US

Posted on 8/28/14 at 5:54 pm to
Posted by trackfan
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 5:54 pm to
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Around 70% of this country can trace their heritage (some part) back to Ireland.

70% seems very high. I seem to recall the percentage of Irish-Americans being estimated to be in the high 30's.

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The Irish were viewed as less valuable than a slave. These are well documented facts and the Irish seem to be doing OK for themselves.

This contradict everything I've read on this subject. For example, African slaves were considered 3/5ths of a human being but Irish endentured servants were considered a whole human being. Also, as far back as the 17th century, court records showed that slaves received harsher punishments than endentured servants for the same offense.
Posted by KCT
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 6:25 pm to
By and large, America does get the best and brightest regarding Asian immigrants. I've been told that a good percentage of people who live in mainland China are incredibly backwards. People who live in Hong Kong, for example, tend to have a very negative view of people from mainland China.
Posted by Reubaltaich
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Posted on 8/28/14 at 8:53 pm to
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This contradict everything I've read on this subject. For example, African slaves were considered 3/5ths of a human being but Irish endentured servants were considered a whole human being. Also, as far back as the 17th century, court records showed that slaves received harsher punishments than endentured servants for the same offense.



Mostly true. Slaves, however, were an extremely valuable asset to the slave owner. A young healthy slave could fetch $30-50K in todays dollars. Slaves were viewed as an investment, a very expensive investment.

Futhermore, most slave holding states had laws on the books in regards to the treatment of slaves. Only the most ignorant slave owners would have disregarded the well-being of his slaves. I am not saying slaves were treated like royalty but they had to be treated with some care.

The Irish, on the other hand, were a dime-a-dozen. If one was killed doing a job, there was four more waiting to replace him. You didn't have to feed him, house and clothe him. You just had to pay him enough to get by.

Lose a slave, you lost a ton of money. Lose an Irishman, no problem. There are many more to replace him.

Thats why the Irish were used in dangerous jobs like digging swamps and working in the mines and other very dangerous jobs.
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