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re: Aren't LSU and Wisconsin eerily similar teams?
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:32 am to TigerTreyjpg
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:32 am to TigerTreyjpg
Not reading that but no.
Speed.
We gots it.
Them cheese fricks don't.
Speed.
We gots it.
Them cheese fricks don't.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:36 am to doze4
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Bucky, you are probably gonna go away thinking that LSU has the cockiest fans in the country if you base it off of the interaction you get on the rant.
LINK Get a room.
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The only thing They know about Wisconsin is cheese heads, & they vaguely remember Ron Dayne when they were in 3rd grade .
We don't recall the glorious OOC wins of recent time... I mean who was in awe of the 1 point win against Arizona State which is basically your marque OOC win in the past 4 years.
And I don't know why a team that has not lost a regular season OOC game in over a decade while playing a heck of a lot of teams more talented than this would be confident.
So doze4 - I watched every single Wisconsin televised game last year (Melvin Gordon was on my fantasy team) - how many did you watch? What about those 13 games gives you such worry?
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:39 am to igoringa
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7-6 at halftime with Gordon getting 62 yards all game is kicking the shite out of them?
Yes our backup had 62 yards. Did you happen to notice how our starter did? 19 132 6.9 2 TDs for New England Patriot James White. They were extra keyed on Gordon because he was an Iowa commit for a good chunk of his senior year before reneging and staying home at UW.
The game is two halves for a reason and yes beating one of our biggest rivals at their place by 3 TDs was kicking their butts. UW-Iowa games usually finish something like 17-10, 31-30, 21-17. For either team to win by three TD's is rare. The all time series is 43-42-2 UW.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:50 am to Johnkester59
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Yes our backup had 62 yards. Did you happen to notice how our starter did?
Yes, he was only 80 yards or so shy of what our starter did.
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They were extra keyed on Gordon because he was an Iowa commit for a good chunk of his senior year before reneging and staying home at UW.
Gotcha - same for BYU? or Minny? or OSU?
Last 5 regular season games, he dropped off (1 100 yard game) after tearing up the start of the season (6 of 7 100 yarders).
But yes... I agree that Iowa tried to stop him.
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The game is two halves for a reason and yes beating one of our biggest rivals at their place by 3 TDs was kicking their butts.
The fact they are your rivals tells us plenty too.
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UW-Iowa games usually finish something like 17-10, 31-30, 21-17. For either team to win by three TD's is rare. The all time series is 43-42-2 UW.
Yes the riveting hearland trophy - Lets see how your scores stack up to reality. IN the 8 games since we have had victory differentials including: 23, 10, 22, 10, and now 19.
So yeah the majority are double digit victories.... and if I go back to '95 the trend would continue.
So yeah, not sure why anyone is tryin to extrapolate a 'rivalry' game anyways (it may shock you but trying to get up for a mediocre bowl against a grossly inferior conference is not exactly an easy task). Running at will against them - sure....
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:52 am to Dick Macho
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Does that sound similar to you? Sounds like LSU is a huge favorite to totally shut down anything in Wiscy's passing game while they only needs average QB play to produce against the Badgers.
Call the guys in Vegas & tell them. Surely they have no idea you feel that way.
We're you saying the same thing before we played Ole Miss last year (be honest) ?
LSU has a lot of unknowns right now. talented freshmen ? no doubt, but still unknowns. If you don't think we will experience some growing pains at qb at some point and elsewhere you are disingenuous.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:07 am to doze4
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The line is 4 points
two scores, thats not a small line
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:07 am to igoringa
35% of ranters think this will be an LSU blowout
65% of ranters think it will be close for a half or 3 quarter and LSU will pull away around 7-10pts
Badger fans are mostly predicting a loss - 85%
A couple UW folks think we can win a tough one 15%
Don't give me this cocky stuff. 85% of our fans agree with 65% of your fans.There are always outliers- especially on the frick'n rant of all places.
Wisconsin is coming off a 293 rushing performance vs SC. LSU's D line wasn't picked in the top half of the SEC yesterday on your network.Wisconsin will be confident running the ball. If that happens - no matter what else- this will be a good game.
65% of ranters think it will be close for a half or 3 quarter and LSU will pull away around 7-10pts
Badger fans are mostly predicting a loss - 85%
A couple UW folks think we can win a tough one 15%
Don't give me this cocky stuff. 85% of our fans agree with 65% of your fans.There are always outliers- especially on the frick'n rant of all places.
Wisconsin is coming off a 293 rushing performance vs SC. LSU's D line wasn't picked in the top half of the SEC yesterday on your network.Wisconsin will be confident running the ball. If that happens - no matter what else- this will be a good game.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:10 am to doze4
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Call the guys in Vegas & tell them. Surely they have no idea you feel that way.
You do know lines are set to get equal wagering on both sides and not as a expert judgment by 'anyone in Vegas' as to what they expect will happen, right? Right?
For example, I consider our 2007 BCS championship win over Ohio State to be more indicative of our betterment over them then the fact Vegas has the point spread at 2.5. But that's just me
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We're you saying the same thing before we played Ole Miss last year (be honest) ?
Yes I always equate rivalry games with OOC games, because they follow the same logic and pattern. Almost as relevant as let down mediocre bowls. I will ignore a 50 game OOC regular season streak, including teams a heck of a lot more talented than Wisky and focus on anecdotal rivalry games.
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LSU has a lot of unknowns right now. talented freshmen ? no doubt, but still unknowns.
We always do.
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If you don't think we will experience some growing pains at qb at some point and elsewhere you are disingenuous.
2011 was all growing pains all year at the QB position. Why are acting like we need the QB to tear it up to beat Wisky?
We can very well have the QB be pedestrian (ala Oregon a few years ago) and walk away with the victory.
I swear you guys have not watched Wisky play (I understand Wisky fans will have their bias).
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:18 am to crazyatthecamp
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Badger fans are mostly predicting a loss - 85%
Let me be the first to congratulate them on their judgment.
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Don't give me this cocky stuff.
If you guys all agree it is likely a double digit win.... then how should that defer my confidence?
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Wisconsin is coming off a 293 rushing performance vs SC.
Double digit loss.
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LSU's D line wasn't picked in the top half of the SEC yesterday on your network.
Bottom half of the SEC DL >>>>>>> Big 10 DL's in general.
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Wisconsin will be confident running the ball.
Well they are going to have to try. Absolutely no QB and you lost the best route running receiver in the nation. Gordon is a beast but clearly faded towards the end of the year (and yes he had a good bowl game)
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If that happens - no matter what else- this will be a good game.
I never said it wasn't going to be a 'good game'. I simply believe we are going to win comfortably at the end of the day. Sounds like most Badgers agree except those debating me.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:23 am to TigerTreyjpg
1st thru midway into 3rd quarter my guess is we will look very much alike. Miles will be gun shy and we will see a lot of dust with some break out runs.
Mid 3rd thru the end, LSU will pull off the bridles and play more like a total different team. At this point we will take a commanding lead.
Mid 3rd thru the end, LSU will pull off the bridles and play more like a total different team. At this point we will take a commanding lead.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:26 am to TigerTreyjpg
Some point of contention
Losing your entire front 7 is a lot worse than losing 2 underachieving DTs and an OLB.
We will throw the ball. We have too much talent at WR not to. Also our QBs are good enough to put some pressure on. This isn't the bowl game. They have been training for this all summer and last spring. They know what is expected of them
Losing your entire front 7 is a lot worse than losing 2 underachieving DTs and an OLB.
We will throw the ball. We have too much talent at WR not to. Also our QBs are good enough to put some pressure on. This isn't the bowl game. They have been training for this all summer and last spring. They know what is expected of them
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:30 am to igoringa
not really. evan landisch makes dj welter look like ray lewis
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:32 am to igoringa
Say what? There ain't no way your qb is going to replicate Shaw.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:48 am to doze4
No worries. Lsu is on a nice run right now. But, some of us remember Stovall, Archer, and Dinardo.
I understand expecting to win. Those that can't see any chance of losing are high. We know who we are. We know are place in the firmament. I know that I'd much rather play you early in the season than late.
Same types that went home mumbling after we beat you by 13 in the tourney.
Same types that woofed about our plodding defense then went home crying after Felix Jones and DMC put up 14 points in the loss.
Or when we put 500 yards on #7 Auburn and crushed them.
Apollo Creed had more talent. Rocky won.
I understand expecting to win. Those that can't see any chance of losing are high. We know who we are. We know are place in the firmament. I know that I'd much rather play you early in the season than late.
Same types that went home mumbling after we beat you by 13 in the tourney.
Same types that woofed about our plodding defense then went home crying after Felix Jones and DMC put up 14 points in the loss.
Or when we put 500 yards on #7 Auburn and crushed them.
Apollo Creed had more talent. Rocky won.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:58 am to BuckyBadger
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Say what? There ain't no way your qb is going to replicate Shaw.
Wont need to. Just pointing out Shaw and PSU before that shredded the secondary.... they are not in the same league.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:59 am to tc5140
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1st thru midway into 3rd quarter my guess is we will look very much alike. Miles will be gun shy and we will see a lot of dust with some break out runs.
Mid 3rd thru the end, LSU will pull off the bridles and play more like a total different team. At this point we will take a commanding lead.
I agree with the result, but think it happens because of depth/better talent, and not because we use a different series of plays, or take the reigns off.
JMO.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:04 pm to Malaysian Tiger
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Recruiting Ranking 2010 LSU 6 Wisconsin 88 Recruiting Ranking 2011 LSU 6 Wisconsin 40 Recruiting Ranking 2012 LSU 18 Wisconsin 57 Recruiting Ranking 2013 LSU 6 Wisconsin 57 Recruiting Ranking 2014 LSU 2 Wisconsin 33
That'll do, pig.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:06 pm to Malaysian Tiger
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Recruiting Ranking 2010 LSU 6 Wisconsin 88 Recruiting Ranking 2011 LSU 6 Wisconsin 40 Recruiting Ranking 2012 LSU 18 Wisconsin 57 Recruiting Ranking 2013 LSU 6 Wisconsin 57 Recruiting Ranking 2014 LSU 2 Wisconsin 33
If you think about it, and assuming the supplied statistics are valid, a loss to Wisconsin would be grounds for dismissal.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:16 pm to crazyatthecamp
I respect the Wisconsin team a lot and I enjoy watching your running backs as they are always legit.
But, what about the running backs we've faced/are facing here in the SEC who are even better than Gordon/Clement????
I mean, do we not face Todd Gurley of Georgia & T.J. Yeldon of Alabama??? And have we not faced running backs and running back tandems even better???
We see GREAT backs year in and year out here in the SEC, so it's pointless to go on and on about how "great" your running backs are. We can see and certainly respect Gordon & Clement, but they're not the first running back duo to pose a challenge to the LSU defense!!!!!
The game will play out on the field, but please stop with the whole "We have Gods for running backs" talk!!!!!
SMH, SMH, SMH...
But, what about the running backs we've faced/are facing here in the SEC who are even better than Gordon/Clement????
I mean, do we not face Todd Gurley of Georgia & T.J. Yeldon of Alabama??? And have we not faced running backs and running back tandems even better???
We see GREAT backs year in and year out here in the SEC, so it's pointless to go on and on about how "great" your running backs are. We can see and certainly respect Gordon & Clement, but they're not the first running back duo to pose a challenge to the LSU defense!!!!!
The game will play out on the field, but please stop with the whole "We have Gods for running backs" talk!!!!!
SMH, SMH, SMH...
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:16 pm to TigerTreyjpg
There a poor mans Alabama.
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