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re: Finally an answer to why Gandolf didn't just fly the ring to Mt Doom

Posted on 8/5/14 at 8:41 pm to
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 8:41 pm to
I always thought that the eagles would have been detected by Sauron and he would have placed a heavy guard in and around the mountain to prevent the ring getting to the fires/lava. You'd think he would have some people/arcs/other creatures on standby around there. I don't think the eagles could have gotten into that cave so they would have had to drop someone to do the last part anyway.

Of course if Sauron was smart he would have definitely either placed an extremely heavy guard around any entry ways to the fire/lava and/or put some heavy walls or doorways in the way. That way Frodo would have had a lot harder time than just walking in.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 8:49 pm to
The eagles... in both the Hobit and LotR.. are a well-known example of Deux Ex Machina. And hence, it created the question, "well, why didn't they just do that in the first place?" like so many other examples.

This was well put together, though. The "fly, you fools!" line really brings it together.
Posted by USMCTiger03
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Posted on 8/5/14 at 9:40 pm to
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I always thought that the eagles would have been detected by Sauron and he would have placed a heavy guard in and around the mountain to prevent the ring getting to the fires/lava. You'd think he would have some people/arcs/other creatures on standby around there. I don't think the eagles could have gotten into that cave so they would have had to drop someone to do the last part anyway. Of course if Sauron was smart he would have definitely either placed an extremely heavy guard around any entry ways to the fire/lava and/or put some heavy walls or doorways in the way. That way Frodo would have had a lot harder time than just walking in.


You've got the detail of it. The entire point of Frodo taking it (aside from being the most incorruptible) was deception - the utter unlikelihood that one or two people could just walk right up to Mt Doom. Sauron's spies were legion. An eagle flying in the open with the ring would certainly have been detected and dispatched. Probably would have made it easier for Sauron.
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