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re: time for another crusade
Posted on 7/30/14 at 8:59 am to Scruffy
Posted on 7/30/14 at 8:59 am to Scruffy
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hat is based on the assumption that we would have multiple terrorist attacks yearly if we weren't bombing countries in the ME, a premise I completely disagree with.
I'm not advocating we demolish our intelligence capabilities or defensive measures, but I challenge any notion that our "safety" is tied to attacking countries in the ME.
The folks whom have expressed this opinion to me may object to my characterization of them as "Progressives", so, I'll remove that label and focus on their idea.
They would agree with your comments in these posts addressing the issue. Their idea is that the USA stops persecuting Muslims, stops killing Muslims . . . and the Muslims' desire to kill us will diminish to the point where we accept a tolerable number of our wives, daughters, etc. being blown into a pink mist of blood and bone fragments by high explosives detonated by Islamic Terrorists.
Seems reasonable?
Or are you saying that if we do these things, then ALL Muslim terror attempts to kill us will halt? That doesn't seem reasonable.
The only way to get the Muslim terrorists to stop wanting to kill us is to withdraw all US personnel , both civilian and military, from all Islamic countries and halt all US support of Israel. We may even need to declare that Israel has no right to exist to be safe.
That might do it.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 9:03 am
Posted on 7/30/14 at 9:14 am to Champagne
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They would agree with your comments in these posts addressing the issue. Their idea is that the USA stops persecuting Muslims, stops killing Muslims . . . and the Muslims' desire to kill us will diminish to the point where we accept a tolerable number of our wives, daughters, etc. being blown into a pink mist of blood and bone fragments by high explosives detonated by Islamic Terrorists.
Your argument starts off fine and then devolves into an insipid statement reflecting your opinions, which, after reading that, I highly doubt will change.
Thus, this entire discussion is futile and useless.
I have a question for you. Do you believe that fighting in Iraq, Afghanistan, etc., actually makes us safer as a country? If so, why?
Why were there no Islamic terrorist attacks against us prior to our involvement in the ME in the 1970s?
Would pulling out of those shitholes reduce the chances of attacks to zero? Of course not. That is impossible, but I will claim that the number of people who become terrorists in those countries would decrease dramatically.
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:24 am to Champagne
Once a Crusader always a Crusader I see.
I choose fight, in case you are interested. And I want to fight by WWII rules, society against society, not military against military. I do not believe rapproachement is possible.
I choose fight, in case you are interested. And I want to fight by WWII rules, society against society, not military against military. I do not believe rapproachement is possible.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 10:41 am
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