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re: Would the Allies have won WWII without America getting involved?
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:49 am to Nativebullet
Posted on 7/26/14 at 12:49 am to Nativebullet
I doubt Germany would have ever successfully invaded Britain regardless, they simply didn't have the necessary naval strength.
However, had America not joined the fight AND Hitler had the foresight to not invade Russia and piss off Stalin, Germany would probably have retained control of most of mainland Europe and northern Africa. Once he invaded Russia his fate was sealed, and ultimately I think even without us England and Russia would have worn them down. It would have taken MUCH longer however.
However, had America not joined the fight AND Hitler had the foresight to not invade Russia and piss off Stalin, Germany would probably have retained control of most of mainland Europe and northern Africa. Once he invaded Russia his fate was sealed, and ultimately I think even without us England and Russia would have worn them down. It would have taken MUCH longer however.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:00 am to Roger Klarvin
The idea we were the savior is a bit of propaganda. No do but we hastened the victory over hitler and of course japan with the nukes. But the English and the Russians were equal partners in Europe which is why we gave Stalin so much. WWII is a such historical time for the us not because we were so dominant war wise, but because we were not destroyers by bombing so we became the world economic power. We were lucky. We were and are not some superior people or political system.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:03 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:This. You can't win a war in Russia, especially during the winter.
think even without us England and Russia would have worn them down.
Posted on 7/26/14 at 1:19 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:Looks about right. Stalingrad was a huge turning point, but (I don't think) Russia had the strength to totally dominate Germany in the aftermath, but the east and west pressure contributed to the collapse. England (again, I don't think anyway) was holding fast but did not have the resources to go too far on the offensive.
However, had America not joined the fight AND Hitler had the foresight to not invade Russia and piss off Stalin, Germany would probably have retained control of most of mainland Europe and northern Africa. Once he invaded Russia his fate was sealed, and ultimately I think even without us England and Russia would have worn them down. It would have taken MUCH longer however.
So, while I don't think it's like the US came in and was a single overwhelming factor, I think the answer to the question is still, no, the Allies would not have won without America.
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