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re: Convention off the states.. all 50 now in play

Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:18 am to
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:18 am to
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That doesn't even make sense. Treaties and international law are not enforcible domestically without Congress specifically passing a law enforcing them. So that's the situation as it stands now, no amendment needed. 


UN small arms treaty is a perfect example. And with the nuclear option opened, why should a simple majority be able to backdoor ammend the constitution?

Thats not how you change the second ammendment.

I believe the 2nd ammendment should have said the people can have any weaponry available to the government without restrictions
Posted by petar
Miami
Member since May 2009
5989 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:30 am to
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I believe the 2nd ammendment should have said the people can have any weaponry available to the government without restrictions


The second amendment says nothing of the sort and thank god it doesnt... Do you think the second amendment allows or should allow citizens to have nukes? Drones? longrange missles? fighter jets?
Posted by FalseProphet
Mecca
Member since Dec 2011
11708 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 10:34 am to
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UN small arms treaty is a perfect example. And with the nuclear option opened, why should a simple majority be able to backdoor ammend the constitution?


Do you know what the nuclear option is?

The nuclear option removed the threshold for cloture. That is, you only need a simple majority to call a vote now.

A treaty ratification still requires two thirds of the Senators to actually vote for it after the vote is called.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 7/22/14 at 11:22 am to
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UN small arms treaty is a perfect example.



Of what? A treaty that can't be enforced domestically without specific action from Congress? Like I said. They're all like that.



EDIT-
Oh, sorry, my bad. I should have figured your statement would in some way relate to a lie.
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This post was edited on 7/22/14 at 11:25 am
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