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re: Obamas statement on middle east and Ukraine from the white house just now

Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:28 pm to
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:28 pm to
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Funny the US managed to stand up to and finally defeat the USSR. Reagan was able to install Pershing Missiles in Europe despite a massive KGB coordinated protest movement, putting enormous pressure on European leaders. Reagan was able to build a coalition, and keep it united.



The USSR crumbled on its own


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What should be done? Don't let Putin drag this thing out, hiding behind an investigation. We know that Russia is responsible. We should privately tell Putin what will be done, if he doesn't begin to de-escalate the conflict. It's highly unlikely that he will give up the Crimea, but we may be able to contain his gains, and actually have him pull back.



I don't think you understand who Putin is. He does not fricking care.

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Lay out all the evidence of Russian culpability before the UN. Photos, radio intercepts, etc.



Thats already happening

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Provide the Ukrainians with conventional weapons, not just MREs.
Hell fricking no

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Place missile defense systems in Poland and the Czech Republic.


more missiles sure

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Put NATO troops in Poland and further east if possible.


um what planet do you live on thats been happening

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Put even more stringent sanctions on Russian financial transactions, in London. Pressure the French to cancel military sales to the Russians. Announce long term agreements with Germany and other Russian customers of fuel to work on new sources of energy.

Make Russia as much of an international pariah as possible.



all this has been happening and will get worse for Russia.

Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9638 posts
Posted on 7/21/14 at 2:47 pm to
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USSR crumbled on its own


I lived through it. I know what happened. I don't know how old you are, but it was Reagan who finally forced the USSR over, after years of a mostly United Western Front against the Soviets.

On all the rest we'll just have to see won't we. The European and the US are meeting this week. Let's see what they come up with.
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I don't think you understand who Putin is. He does not fricking care.


You think Putin is invincible? Don't you think he has enemies internally?

And why not help out the Ukrainians with conventional weapons? You're ok with the Russians running roughshod over them, and anyone else who gets in the way of their quest to restore the Soviet Union?
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Put NATO troops in Poland and further east if possible.


um what planet do you live on thats been happening




Typo. Omitted the word "more".


The point of my original post is that an aggressive Putin was a foregone conclusion once he saw a weakened Bush, and a President who is silly enough to send over a Re-Set button and draw shifting Red Lines in the sand . How do you think Mr Tough Guy reacted to that?
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