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State's Rights
Posted on 7/16/14 at 12:47 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 12:47 am
Im a huge state's rights supporter and think each american would benefit from a more heavily migrated state's rights turn around for several reasons. Number 1 above all, if you don't like something vote on it amongst your own state and that way there is no electoral college to effect anything. Preferences to one's life is everything to our time here on earth. Why not just let people live the way they want. It gives other state's to allow gay marriage or any other type of federal hold back. I don't mean to sound too over the top, but I feel like a socialist sometimes because I just want everyone to be able to live how they want to and take care of themselves and their own. No welfare, no electoral college, nothing that is forced on our plate. Would also save more money on taxes. Would bump your own state's tax, so more improvement amongst state, but less uniform control that isn't necessary when we are already living in a free spirited country.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
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Posted on 7/16/14 at 12:51 am to Recruitingjunkie
Go to sleep, you're drunk.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 12:57 am to inelishaitrust
No I am just one to bring no stress and no worry anymore. Everyone wins under a system that way. There is more independency like people want. Liberals get to do basically anything under whichever state they reside and Conservatives get to save the middle class in taxes and in moral values in the south and such. Several perks to this, with very little downside. I just want everyone to enjoy the life they want to live, the way they want. This makes the feasible.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:02 am to Recruitingjunkie
The thing that doesn't make it feasible is that we're too connected. If the laws drastically change every 10 miles it gets really expensive and inneficient in a hurry.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:08 am to Recruitingjunkie
That's all fine and dandy but I simply can't move every time a law is passed that I don't like. There's 1,000's in every state that are complete BS.
There should be a balance. Often the cry for state 'a rights revolves around a desire to restrict freedom or to do something really backwards.
Having said that, the fed could be ratcheted down a few notches on fiscal matters, for sure.
I don't want states to have the right to make oral seks illegal, or to implement a sedition act, or to require all children receive Christian teachings.
There should be a balance. Often the cry for state 'a rights revolves around a desire to restrict freedom or to do something really backwards.
Having said that, the fed could be ratcheted down a few notches on fiscal matters, for sure.
I don't want states to have the right to make oral seks illegal, or to implement a sedition act, or to require all children receive Christian teachings.
This post was edited on 7/16/14 at 1:10 am
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:10 am to inelishaitrust
I realize that we are connected underneath the constitution and basic law, but everything Obama does anyways is unconstitutional. He just prints money whenever and just bypasses everything through if there is any possibility someone would disagree. I am not on the inside of this obviously, but those things can't be far from the truth of it. There is a way to make it to where Federal Government keeps some power and keeps the states in check, but allows them to govern themselves from a specific standpoint and with money. Money is everything and to just spread it out evenly is just taking away from people who get out and make the best of themselves working hard. Im not saying I can personally come up with a flawless system that would leave no room for kinks but I think there is a way to go from a very liberal democratic republic to a republic of socialistic states under federal hold.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:18 am to Asgard Device
There can't be a vote on every little thing but having a judicial state system judge based off of their professional opinion on important topics that would be extremely debatable nation wide, would absolutely be something people would go to the polls once a year for. Covering detrimental ground is much better than being powerless and living in a country where the majority or might I say (the important heavily populated residents) are the opposite of everything you want in life. Thats not fair and saying life isn't fair doesn't always cut it for people. Obama clearly doesn't care, he just does what he wants.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:20 am to Recruitingjunkie
There hasn't even been a tax increase under Obama, unless you count Obamacare. It's hard to even call it a tax, because you're paying directly for a service. I believe that it is unconstitutional, but the conservative leaning supreme court saw it differently.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:26 am to inelishaitrust
I think the Feds are the Feds whether they wear red or blue ties. Taxes pay for them and their people's paychecks. That being said, the state trump rights would just make state taxes go from 4 percent to probably 10, and income from 8 to 15 and you got your 25 that would normally be going to straight federal, but now they could just draw a check from your state rep with X amount of dollars for staying a part of the union under a contract drawn up by the Feds. Everyone wins
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:35 am to Recruitingjunkie
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everything Obama does anyways is unconstitutional.
I'm a conservative, but this is an asinine statement.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:39 am to TbirdSpur2010
It was dripping with exaggeration, but if anyone denies he hasn't done anything unconstitutional they need to just go ahead and get some donkey ears. Going by a system where someone that high profile couldn't just get away with stamping everything, his arse would have been impeached 6 years ago.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:40 am to Recruitingjunkie
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This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:40 am to Recruitingjunkie
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It was dripping with exaggeration
Just making sure. Hard to tell on the internet sometimes.
Carry on
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:44 am to efrad
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I don't think you understand what socialism is...
Ive essentially rattled off what socialism stands for on an economic and social level.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 1:48 am to Recruitingjunkie
Essentially Marxism–Leninism, without the communist influence and fascist leadership. I was describing a solid balance between keeping a democratic republic underneath a higher government that acted as a probate. All while the economic influence was based off of promoting preferred values and economic movements/taxes.
Posted on 7/16/14 at 12:53 pm to Recruitingjunkie
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It was dripping with exaggeration, but if anyone denies he hasn't done anything unconstitutional they need to just go ahead and get some donkey ears. Going by a system where someone that high profile couldn't just get away with stamping everything, his arse would have been impeached 6 years ago.
were you alive during Bush/Cheney ?
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