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re: So if amnesty didn't work the first go around why would it work now?

Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:49 am to
Posted by SpidermanTUba
my house
Member since May 2004
36129 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:49 am to
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So if amnesty didn't work the first go around why would it work now?


Doesn't matter.

The free market decides how many people cross. Its simple math.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49549 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:50 am to
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The free market


Where does this exist?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67552 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 11:53 am to
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The free market decides how many people cross. Its simple math.


You are correct, sir, only it's "the market" not "the free market" because the current market conditions are far from free. It would be "free" (or at least "free-er") if there was no welfare state and no minimum wage laws. You can have a welfare state with closed borders, or no welfare state with open borders. You can't have both.
Posted by petar
Miami
Member since May 2009
5989 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 12:06 pm to
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I'm pretty ignorant about the details of Reagan's amnesty but wasn't the agreement to allow amnesty in exchange for strengthening the border with the latter never occurring?


Pretty sure you answered your own question. Amnesty would prbly have been alright if more people would not have come in. Illegal immigration will be an issue as long as there are illegal immigrants.

currently, i don't know of a viable solution that would not include a track for allowing illegals to become citizens and would not include a way to prevent more illegals from coming in.

If it doesn't have both components, i dont think we are really fixing the problem. Unless you cut off the reason the are coming, $, and that would seem to be pretty difficult.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11544 posts
Posted on 7/7/14 at 1:19 pm to
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The free market decides how many people cross. Its simple math.


I thought you were the big Global Warming guy on the board? You want more people coming here using more resources? Driving more cars, paving more roads and parking lots, building more houses, using more energy?

There are no more resources to support the populations in their country so they are coming here. To boot they get free healthcare, school and food.
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