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re: Mayors Discuss Ways to Stop Gentrification
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:17 am to PrimeTime Money
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:17 am to PrimeTime Money
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So now your house is worth more. What's wrong with that?
For me nothing. its fricking awesome.
For the people paying rent in this neighborhood its a different story. We're definitely going to be jacking the rent way up (we have a duplex) when the current tenant finishes school and moves out.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:24 am to SpidermanTUba
I just don't see the big deal with gentrification. I mean, take my old neighborhood for example. When I lived there, it was a decent middle-class area and about 70% white.
Now, it's about 95% black, it's run down, and crime is rampant. And it's been like that for years now.
And I moved from there in 1998, so that was a drastic change that happened in only about 10 years.
As some neighborhoods see gentrification, some neighborhoods see the opposite. Neighborhoods change.
Now, it's about 95% black, it's run down, and crime is rampant. And it's been like that for years now.
And I moved from there in 1998, so that was a drastic change that happened in only about 10 years.
As some neighborhoods see gentrification, some neighborhoods see the opposite. Neighborhoods change.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:26 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
Just do what Mugabe did: whites can't own or rent property within the city limits.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:27 am to PrimeTime Money
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I just don't see the big deal with gentrification. I mean, take my old neighborhood for example. When I lived there, it was a decent middle-class area and about 70% white.
Now, it's about 95% black, it's run down, and crime is rampant. And it's been like that for years now.
And I moved from there in 1998, so that was a drastic change that happened in only about 10 years.
As some neighborhoods see gentrification, some neighborhoods see the opposite. Neighborhoods change.
What have you got against the blacks?
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:28 am to SpidermanTUba
..... nothing. I'm just saying how the neighborhood completely shifted demographically.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:28 am to SpidermanTUba
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What have you got against the blacks?
Where did he say he had something against blacks? He just stated facts.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:33 am to PrimeTime Money
quote:Morally, it's not a big deal. It's not a moral issue, even though some people try to make it one.
I just don't see the big deal with gentrification. I mean, take my old neighborhood for example. When I lived there, it was a decent middle-class area and about 70% white.
Now, it's about 95% black, it's run down, and crime is rampant. And it's been like that for years now.
And I moved from there in 1998, so that was a drastic change that happened in only about 10 years.
As some neighborhoods see gentrification, some neighborhoods see the opposite. Neighborhoods change.
But personally, it is a big fricking deal for some people. If you're a retired old timer whose family has been in the same neighborhood for a few generations, and your neighborhood has been gentrifying and pushing up property taxes, it might be a big deal to you that you can no longer afford your property taxes and are forced to move away.
In NYC, neighborhoods which were once unique cultural enclaves are being erased as people who have no ties to the neighborhood gobble up all the real estate and push out the old inhabitants. It represents a real cultural loss, which is a bad thing. But again, it's a natural process, it's inevitable, and IMO we shouldn't fight it.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:34 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
Yeah, frick making neighborhoods nicer and properly values go up.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:34 am to Placebeaux
quote:Yeah, how'd you know?
Woodmere?
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:36 am to Hog on the Hill
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and your neighborhood has been gentrifying and pushing up property taxes
so now we're getting at the root of the problem...the government and the revaluation of properties. Seems to me this is something these mayors could easily fix if they really wanted to.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:37 am to PrimeTime Money
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..... nothing. I'm just saying how the neighborhood completely shifted demographically.
Did the blacks cause the crime, did the crime cause the blacks, or is that just an irrelevant added fact?
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:37 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Where did he say he had something against blacks?
We are you getting defensive on behalf of another poster?
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:39 am to SpidermanTUba
Just wondering what your reason was for assuming he had something against blacks simply because he stated that his old neighborhood was 90% black and crime had exponentially increased.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:41 am to Hog on the Hill
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But personally, it is a big fricking deal for some people. If you're a retired old timer whose family has been in the same neighborhood for a few generations, and your neighborhood has been gentrifying and pushing up property taxes, it might be a big deal to you that you can no longer afford your property taxes and are forced to move away.
Not just owners. Renters, too, will be pushed out. There are a lot of renters in mid-city.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:42 am to GeauxxxTigers23
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Just wondering what your reason was for assuming he had something against blacks simply because he stated that his old neighborhood was 90% black and crime had exponentially increased.
Yeah. Exactly.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:43 am to PrimeTime Money
It just fit the description.
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:44 am to SpidermanTUba
quote:Your whole point is irrelevant.
Did the blacks cause the crime, did the crime cause the blacks, or is that just an irrelevant added fact?
The fact is: Neighborhood used to be mostly white and fairly safe. Now it's mostly black and not safe.
You can come up with your own reasons as to why that is, but it's beside the point.
My point was simply that the neighborhood is almost the complete opposite of what it used to be.
This post was edited on 7/6/14 at 9:46 am
Posted on 7/6/14 at 9:45 am to SpidermanTUba
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Renters, too, will be pushed out.
how?
Posted on 7/6/14 at 10:05 am to ForeLSU
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how?
Higher rents. There's no rent control here. We could jack up the rent on our tenants with 30 days notice if we wanted.
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