I'm torn on this. On the one hand I hate that all the hard work our men and women have done there has gone to utter shite, especially from so little effort (the Iraqi military far outnumbered the ISIS folks, apparently many were just there for the paycheck).

On the other hand, we gave them all the tools to stand up on their own. We can't be holding their hands forever. If you want freedom badly enough, you fricking fight for it. Along with this point, I am so incredibly tired of the world counting on us to not only be the World Police (America, frick YEAH!) but also because those that we help often end up depending on us to keep propping them up.

Sometimes I feel like our leaders suffer from battered spouse syndrome on this. We do everything we can to make the other side better, but eventually they shite on us. Yet we still want to keep going back because maybe one day... ONE DAY... things will be good again.

Our leaders need a fricking intervention.

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Posted by Darth_Vader

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Posted on 6/18/14 at 8:50 am to Bard

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m torn on this. On the one hand I hate that all the hard work our men and women have done there has gone to utter shite, especially from so little effort (the Iraqi military far outnumbered the ISIS folks, apparently many were just there for the paycheck).

On the other hand, we gave them all the tools to stand up on their own. We can't be holding their hands forever. If you want freedom badly enough, you fricking fight for it. Along with this point, I am so incredibly tired of the world counting on us to not only be the World Police (America, frick YEAH!) but also because those that we help often end up depending on us to keep propping them up.

Sometimes I feel like our leaders suffer from battered spouse syndrome on this. We do everything we can to make the other side better, but eventually they shite on us. Yet we still want to keep going back because maybe one day... ONE DAY... things will be good again.

Our leaders need a fricking intervention.

But that's just it, we came close to giving them everything they needed but Obama made sure the job was not finished. I'll use WWII as an metaphor that perhaps will help you understand....

Let's say that it's the summer of 1944. In June the Normandy landings took place. In the last week of August we took back Paris. Now imagine that right after this instead of pushing on and seeing the war through to the end, instead we declare the war is now over and in September of 1944 we withdraw all our troops an tell the French "good luck". Meanwhile the German army which was on the verge of collapse has now moved back to it's on frontier defenses in the Siegfried line and where it can catch it's breath and get ready to go back on the offensive shortly.

Basically that's what Obama did in Iraq a couple years ago.

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