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re: Were the 90's the worst years for pop culture?
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:17 pm to OMLandshark
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:17 pm to OMLandshark
Yeah, the 80s had some real "slouches". 
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
Back to the Future 1 and 2
Ghostbusters 1 and 2
Beverly Hills Cop 1 and 2
E.T.
John Hughes films
the greatest decade ever for cartoons and children's shows
the greatest ever decade for horror films
and much more.
The 90s had a few great action movies, 1994 was a great film year, and 1990's Good Fellas but overall it falls far short of the 80s. Movies and music wise the 80s absolutely blows the 90s away. Fashion was better and girls looked better overall with straighter hair in the 90s as opposed to the 80s.
As for Clinton not doing anything wrong in the 90s, he was largely responsible for NAFTA which has been disastrous to American manufacturing. His cohorts in the Senate were getting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac cranked up during that time which greatly contributed to the real estate meltdown in the mid to late 2000s.
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
Back to the Future 1 and 2
Ghostbusters 1 and 2
Beverly Hills Cop 1 and 2
E.T.
John Hughes films
the greatest decade ever for cartoons and children's shows
the greatest ever decade for horror films
and much more.
The 90s had a few great action movies, 1994 was a great film year, and 1990's Good Fellas but overall it falls far short of the 80s. Movies and music wise the 80s absolutely blows the 90s away. Fashion was better and girls looked better overall with straighter hair in the 90s as opposed to the 80s.
As for Clinton not doing anything wrong in the 90s, he was largely responsible for NAFTA which has been disastrous to American manufacturing. His cohorts in the Senate were getting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac cranked up during that time which greatly contributed to the real estate meltdown in the mid to late 2000s.
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Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:31 pm to Govt Tide
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Yeah, the 80s had some real "slouches".
They're not bad movies by any means, but a prerequisite behind these films is that you grew up in the 80s and get what they're talking about. Star Wars people will role their eyes on there not really being an information management system. Even Indiana Jones was a homage to cinema in the 30s and attempting to bring their modern adaptation relies on you having an 80s mindset to appreciate it. I do have an 80s mindset, so I enjoy it. Someone born in 2030, I can't say the same.
The only one of those listed that I'm confident will be watched 100 years from now regularly is ET. That's not dependent at all on an 80s mindset and I can't imagine that anything we know about extraterrestrials at the time would affect it.
But seriously, compare to the masterpieces of the 90s. They really bring you up to speed on the mentality of the time period and location where you are. 80s movies don't even try to do this for the most part. Even the Big Lebowski which was merely separated by its period by about 6 years completely puts you in the mentality of the time. None of the films you listed do that, so they will inevitably age much more poorly than the films of the 90s.
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the greatest decade ever for cartoons and children's shows
And just so you know, this is complete and total bullshite and if anything the 90s did better than the 80s did, it was kids cartoons. There is nothing in the 80s that is even in the same conversation as Batman or Animaniacs.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 6/11/14 at 9:37 pm to Govt Tide
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Yeah, the 80s had some real "slouches".
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
The Empire Strikes Back
Return of the Jedi
Back to the Future 1 and 2
Ghostbusters 1 and 2
Beverly Hills Cop 1 and 2
E.T.
John Hughes films
the greatest decade ever for cartoons and children's shows
the greatest ever decade for horror films
and much more.
Agreed, especially Star Wars and BTTF. And I was a 90s kid and agree to that. I think the 90s wins for having the best "serious" films (see Saving Private Ryan, Schindler's List), but the 80s wins for pure fun movies.
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...music wise the 80s absolutely blows the 90s away.
The music in the 80s was awesome. The music in the 90s was not terrible. Ever since it has been downhill, except for country and if you like rap. Over-reliance on autotune has absolutely destroyed the pop/R&B world.
Just in regard to my tastes, the 80s was the last great decade for popular music.
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Fashion was better and girls looked better overall with straighter hair in the 90s as opposed to the 80s.
I'll say this for the 90s, I was 14 in 1996 and I thought this woman was pretty hot:
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As for Clinton not doing anything wrong in the 90s, he was largely responsible for NAFTA which has been disastrous to American manufacturing. His cohorts in the Senate were getting Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac cranked up during that time which greatly contributed to the real estate meltdown in the mid to late 2000s.
I'm a Republican but I will say for Bill Clinton, he's far preferable to what we have now. I disagree on NAFTA, I think it has been a net positive. Welfare reform, lowering the capital gains rate and the balanced budget were significant achievements. You are right on Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac, Ginsburg/Breyer suck and he didn't do enough on terrorism, but compared to Obama, I'd take Clinton any day.
*Also, containing the explosions in the Balkans, resolving those conflicts and bringing Milosevic to justice took a lot of skill and smarts, and Clinton deserves a lot of credit for that.
This post was edited on 6/11/14 at 9:55 pm
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