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Re: Bergdahl; WH overrode existing protocol between agencies
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:27 pm
I know I know, another one of these threads... But this shite is blowing up with a quickness. Could this be the first "scandal" that both sides of the aisle go apeshit on?
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To pull off the prisoner swap of five Taliban leaders for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the White House overrode an existing interagency process charged with debating the transfer of Guantanamo Bay prisoners and dismissed long-standing Pentagon and intelligence community concerns based on Top Secret intelligence about the dangers of releasing the five men, sources familiar with the debate tell TIME.
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But officials in the Pentagon and intelligence communities had successfully fought off release of the five men in the past, officials tell Time. “This was out of the norm,” says one official familiar with the debate over the dangers of releasing the five Taliban officials. “There was never the conversation.” Obama’s move was an ultimate victory for those at the White House and the State Department who had previously argued the military should “suck it up and salute,” says the official familiar with the debate.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 4:35 pm
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Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:30 pm to Lsut81
shite, TIME is turning on him? Wow.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:30 pm to Lsut81
Would completely explain the admin being so clueless at the presser. Jack with intelligence community at your own risk. They might just leave you standing in front of the Whitehouse praising a traitor with a man praying in Arabic on live television. 
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:31 pm to Lsut81
Yeah, I just posted this in the Feinstein thread... Things aren't going to be pretty.
You're also missing one of the telling quotes from the article, about this exchange being a victory for the parts of the administration who had been telling the military to "suck it up and salute".
Blatantly pissing off the military is something that ends badly in most countries.
You're also missing one of the telling quotes from the article, about this exchange being a victory for the parts of the administration who had been telling the military to "suck it up and salute".
Blatantly pissing off the military is something that ends badly in most countries.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:31 pm to Lsut81
Shocked that they would blow shite like this off. Laws sure every fricking day but this? 
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:31 pm to Rickety Cricket
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shite, TIME is turning on him? Wow.
Thats why I asked, will this be the first scandal that will garner criticism from both sides of the aisle?
Info is flowing rapidly and none of it is a positive for the WH. You are going to see anyone considering a 2016 run distancing themselves from the WH with the quickness.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:32 pm to Lsut81
Sickening.
Arrogance + Disingenuousness + Incompetence = BHP is sad and dismayed
Arrogance + Disingenuousness + Incompetence = BHP is sad and dismayed
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:33 pm to Lsut81
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Could this be the first "scandal" that both sides of the aisle go apeshit on?
Nope
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:33 pm to Lsut81
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dismissed long-standing Pentagon and intelligence community concerns based on Top Secret intelligence about the dangers of releasing the five men
intelligence? Pentagon?
OBAMA WATCHES MSNBC.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:33 pm to teke184
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You're also missing one of the telling quotes from the article, about this exchange being a victory for the parts of the administration who had been telling the military to "suck it up and salute".
Post in here and I will add to the OP
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:34 pm to Lsut81
Phoney scandal!
Republicans playing politics in an election year!
Republicans playing politics in an election year!
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:34 pm to teke184
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this exchange being a victory for the parts of the administration who had been telling the military to "suck it up and salute".
pissing off the military...AFTER you threw the CIA under the bus isnt a good idea.
Thats how you end up dead.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:34 pm to Lsut81
The more I hear about this, the more nauseated I get.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:35 pm to Lsut81
This whole situation really is mind boggling. I get that they wanted the VA scandal off the front page, but there had to be a better way. Who do you all think made the call, Valerie? McDonough? Axelrod?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:35 pm to Lsut81
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Post in here and I will add to the OP
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Obama’s move was an ultimate victory for those at the White House and the State Department who had previously argued the military should “suck it up and salute,” says the official familiar with the debate.
This post was edited on 6/3/14 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:36 pm to Lsut81
Is the WH so incompetent that they didn't see this shite-storm coming before they pulled the trigger? Why would they do this?
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:37 pm to Lsut81
Seriously who gives a shite? We're five less detainees at GITMO and an american POW is home.
Now release or charge/trial the rest of them and get the frick out of the Afghanistan. Ready to be done with it all.
Now release or charge/trial the rest of them and get the frick out of the Afghanistan. Ready to be done with it all.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:38 pm to Mac
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Is the WH so incompetent that they didn't see this shite-storm coming before they pulled the trigger? Why would they do this?
It's like dealing with a child doing something idiotic that they're stuck on.
They're told not to do it, they do it, and they're happy... and then the exact thing the adult told them would happen DOES happen.
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:38 pm to Mac
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Is the WH so incompetent that they didn't see this shite-storm coming before they pulled the trigger? Why would they do this?
That is what confuses me... How in the frick do you get a room full of people to give this the thumbs up, much less a pair of people
Posted on 6/3/14 at 4:38 pm to boosiebadazz
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The more I hear about this, the more nauseated I get.
There's literally no good angle for them to take on this one.
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