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re: watch kip holden lie.....

Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:28 pm to
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14600 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:28 pm to
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Did anyone actually doubt that the city approached the property owners?


Seriously, get over the loss.

Let's go over the two options:

1. Best case scenario he lied. That means the mayor, no doubt backed up with powerful shady forces like BRAF and BRAC have enough power to compel large retail businesses and land owners to bend to his will. In other works, Baton Rouge stacked; St. George fricked.

This is best case.

2. Worst case is he didn't lie. If you open your eyes you just might realize that a rational analysis by business interests reveal that they do not want St. George.

In this case either the incorporation effort will wither and die without the support of the business community (actually, this would be a good outcome as it would allow you to refocus on education) or if somehow still incorporation happens, businesses will be suffer. Unless you think your economic analysis is superior to those choosing to be annexed (hint, it's unlikely).


I have posted it before and do so now again: the incorporation effort is stupid and a wasteful distraction. Return to the original focus on schools.

I will now add you need to lose Rainey and Bodi as your leaders. Find others to step up (or do so yourself).
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
128384 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:32 pm to
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. If you open your eyes you just might realize that a rational analysis by business interests reveal that they do not want St. George.
Posted by tdg
Member since Sep 2009
223 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 3:40 pm to
First, I think the leaders of the SG incorporation are doing as good of a job as anyone could do under the circumstances.

But the opposition to SG has nothing to do with the leaders of incorporation. BR wants SG tax money. Period. The SG movement could be led by a Democrat, a Republican, an MBA, an engineer, a high school dropout, a Muslin, a short guy, a black guy, a fat guy, a woman, or a guy who wears overalls, and the same people who oppose it now would oppose it then because they don't want to SG tax money to go away.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
29572 posts
Posted on 5/15/14 at 4:42 pm to
quote:

Seriously, get over the loss.

Let's go over the two options:

1. Best case scenario he lied. That means the mayor, no doubt backed up with powerful shady forces like BRAF and BRAC have enough power to compel large retail businesses and land owners to bend to his will. In other works, Baton Rouge stacked; St. George fricked.

This is best case.

2. Worst case is he didn't lie. If you open your eyes you just might realize that a rational analysis by business interests reveal that they do not want St. George.

In this case either the incorporation effort will wither and die without the support of the business community (actually, this would be a good outcome as it would allow you to refocus on education) or if somehow still incorporation happens, businesses will be suffer. Unless you think your economic analysis is superior to those choosing to be annexed (hint, it's unlikely).


I have posted it before and do so now again: the incorporation effort is stupid and a wasteful distraction. Return to the original focus on schools.

I will now add you need to lose Rainey and Bodi as your leaders. Find others to step up (or do so yourself).


1. The city leaders in BR were/are absolutely terrified of the SG movement. Actions speak MUCH louder than words. They know that if the SE portion of the parish ("city") were to incorporate then it would be extremely bad news for BR proper as there are many in that area which contribute little to no revenue to the funding of the local govt.

2. The mayor, metro council and other BR leaders have been in a full court press to shut down the incorporation attempt. This included the multiple bills re: incorporation which I suppose were just "coincidentally" filed this session.

3. I completely understand the MOL, BRG, OLOL decisions to be annexed. There is an awful lot of uncertainty in the incorporation proposal. Those business have to look out for their best interest. There's not as much risk with the "known" commodity.

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I have posted it before and do so now again: the incorporation effort is stupid and a wasteful distraction. Return to the original focus on schools.


I agree that the biggest (and original) issue is the schools. No matter how much the EBRSS tells us otherwise, the system is not going to dramatically improve. It may plateau in "shittiness" and even improve slightly here and there, but it's not going to be a good or even avg. school system in the foreseeable future.

The question is how cab the SE portion of the city get an ISD. The legislature refuses to let it happen through that process. Now the area is trying to appease the mandates of the legislature only to have the city of BR (understandably on their part) step in to insure it won't happen from that angle either. Serious, non-biased question, what is the alternative?
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