re: watch kip holden lie.....

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Oh, that's right.

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you are damn right, I'm right.

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You said he didn't lie, he just 'stretched the truth.'

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I did say that. And, I noted that, IMO, it was a calculated move to try and stall the incorporation vote. For you to pretend that I said anything else is just as dishonest.

Meanwhile, Mickey is literally in this thread, despite the video to the contrary saying it's not clear that the hospital was approached by Kip.