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Training a dog to track wounded deer.....
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:28 am
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:28 am
OB - I have searched the net and done some reading but was wondering if any of yal had trained to track. I was fortunate to get a GSP from a fellow board member (Dyslexic)I am not a bird hunter, but with her nose and drive to be outside I would like to train her to track wounded deer. I have been saving deer blood as I thaw meat and also a frew scraps for Riley to eat, she is only 13wks old so I know there isn't a rush but any pointers or techniques would be appreciated. Here are a couple pics, her name is Riley.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:30 am to swanny297
no clue... but purty dog ya got ther
Posted on 5/1/14 at 8:55 am to swanny297
I've had several dogs that tracked but never trained one. It came natural from being in the woods and around deer. I would think they wouldn't be smelling the blood though but the deer itself when tracking. If it is enough blood on the ground then you don't need a dog.
ETA: beautiful dog
ETA: beautiful dog
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 8:56 am
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:19 am to KingRanch
Train her to track wounded deer and find antlers.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:22 am to swanny297
I've trained a few, with good success. The best I ever had got her arse whipped by a crippled doe at about age 4 months (dog age, not deer age). After that, she absolutely hated deer. I lost count of how many she caught alive through the years. Starting her with deer blood is good. You can also shoot squirrels and birds and drag them around the yard. Make sure you wear rubber boots and try to keep your scent off the trail. You want to make sure she's not just trailing you. Start off letting her go after it right after you make the trail. Extend the time as she progresses. We have a dog now that's found several deer 24hrs after being shot. The capabilities of a dog's nose cannot be overstated.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 9:28 am to roguetiger15
the breeder i got mine from would hook any of her dogs on a lead and they would track wounded deer with no training (she's a show breeder)
i know that doesn't help but here are pictures of my GSP lol
about 14 weeks
a few weeks ago (he's 11 months @ 68lbs)
i know that doesn't help but here are pictures of my GSP lol
about 14 weeks
a few weeks ago (he's 11 months @ 68lbs)
Posted on 5/1/14 at 10:15 am to swanny297
Start off by using blood in a straight line for a bout 25ft with at treat at the end everyday for about a week. Gradually start using less blood curving the trail slightly. After they figure out what's going on I start adding water to the blood so it's easier on them when they are on a real blood trail it easier for them. After a month or so your dog should be able go a few hundreds yards with just a speck of blood every 10 ft or so. I have plenty of deer blood of you need some. This what I did with my dog and went 8 for 9 by the time he was 7 months old.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:04 am to tenfoe
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Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:14 am to The Last Coco
If your lucky, the dog will be pretty natural at it. That is how it has been with my Catahoula. Pretty good story on her from yesterday. I squirrel hunt with her and there was a squirrel that ran through our backyard and right into the tree in our neighbors property. So she is barking at the tree with her paws on our 6' fence, and I am egging her on,"Get that squirrel Grits, get it". Well after 15 seconds or so she keeps looking back at me like arent you going to shoot it? Well clearly im not so she backs up a couple of feet, gets a running start, and jumps clear over the 6 foot fence into our neghbors tree/bush in their yard . Real awkward knocking on the neighbors door to get my dog, especially when they asked if she dug under and I said nope, she went over. They were a little confused
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 11:15 am
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:19 am to swanny297
It is of utmost importance that the trainer be smarter than the dog.
Houston, we have a problem..
Houston, we have a problem..
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:32 am to DeepSouthSportsman
DSS thanks for the information, I may need to get some blood (I live in West Monroe) if this is feasible, I don't think I have enough to run but for about a week or so, by treats, did you leave a deer meat snack?
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:33 am to Ole Geauxt
Hush your mouth old man LOL....she probably is smarter than me what I am talking about..
Posted on 5/1/14 at 11:46 am to swanny297
Where can someone get blood during the summertime? I didn't save any from hunting season, and saving some from thawing meat would take a while. I cooked a pork loin last week that had a ton in the bag? Think that would work?
My Boykin is pretty good and found 6-7 last year but I probably need to run him on a trail a few times during the summer to keep him fresh
My Boykin is pretty good and found 6-7 last year but I probably need to run him on a trail a few times during the summer to keep him fresh
Posted on 5/1/14 at 12:39 pm to swanny297
That's a good looking pup you got there.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:03 pm to swanny297
By treat, I usually go get some cheap beef and barely cook in a skillet. I'm southeast louisiana with no intentions of heading your way. I've heard you can use any kind of blood. I would imagine most blood smells somewhat similar. Might want to check with a local meat shop.
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:35 pm to DeepSouthSportsman
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I've heard you can use any kind of blood. I would imagine most blood smells somewhat similar. Might want to check with a local meat shop.
You can use any blood you can find. Once the dog figures it out, it's like riding a bike.
My methods are pretty similar to deepsouth. I save all my deer hocks, tails, and pieces of the hides. I also save as much blood as I can. I have plenty, but I'm in southeast LA too and I never go up north. Start short and leave a good trail to a piece of hide if you have it. If not, treats are fine. Praise the hell out of the dog whenever he gets to the end. Then, just gradually extend the length of the trail and the length between drops of blood. I never tried adding water to it but that's a really good idea too. If you want the dog to do it on lead, then start doing it on lead when he starts to get the hang of it. I never did that with my golden, and she will take a good blood trail at full sprint. Kinda wish I would've lead trained her.
eta: once he gets blood, save the hocks and hides from deer you kill next season. Then, make a 100yd trail with rubber boots on dragging the hide the whole way, and only put like 4-5 drops of blood. I bet he finds it with no problem. That way, gutshot deer become less of an issue.
This post was edited on 5/1/14 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:37 pm to DeepSouthSportsman
I started by dragging hot dogs around the yard for mine to find and left the hot dog at the end of the trail. Started mixing blood on the trail then eliminated the hot dog all together except for at the end of the trail. Extend the length if the trail and complexity over time and get stingy in the amount of blood used. I also used a deer hide with the blood sometimes to get that smell in there too!
Posted on 5/1/14 at 1:38 pm to swanny297
Swanny, I will be in gonzales and possibly Nola Sat night and Sun until sometime during the afternoon. If one of the guys can get the blood to me, I don't mind toting along an ice chest and getting it back to Pineville for you.
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