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re: So my daughter has received interest from an Ivy League school

Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:21 pm to
Posted by Wally Sparks
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:21 pm to
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This is a blog from a girl from our area that is a senior at Yale. This makes me feel a little better.


She's on the right:



Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:22 pm to
looks like a dude with drag on
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:25 pm to
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this is a very typical "parent" move.


Very true, but doesn't mean it should happen. You can only shelter your kids for so long. The world will find them eventually. You've had 18 years now to raise them right. Time to let the fear go just a little and let them experience life.
Posted by Gray Tiger
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:42 pm to
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part of the reason why a school like princeton is held in the regard it is, is due to its liberal arts programs



Mostly by other people who have liberal arts degrees?
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:44 pm to
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would you have the same response if he was not supportive (or at least uneasy) with a girl he's raised to be responsible and chaste who uttered a desire to go to a school like Texas Tech, ASU, etc?


I find it hilarious (as well as pathetic)how horrified he is as the prospect of his daughter making her own choices. He doesn't give a shite about her desires with her life choices. He gives a shite about his desires for her choices.

He is the worst kind of parent.

I would have the exact same response where ever she choose to go because it should be her god damn choice. She is a legal adult. What he is going to find, and god knows I have seen this time and time again, he is going to influence her choices, she is going to get out in that big old world and suddenly get a taste of freedom from her overbearing parents.

And go wild.

Then she is going to make a few choices that will negatively affect the rest of her life.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:48 pm to
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I find it hilarious (as well as pathetic)how horrified he is as the prospect of his daughter making her own choices.

well i get that, but at the same time he'd be subsidizing choices he doesn't believe in. if she was paying for it he'd have no say

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because it should be her god damn choice. She is a legal adult.

again, if he isn't paying for it, i agree 100%

but i also understand that when you agree to let somebody subsidize your choice, you cede autonomy to that person

this isn't some amazing concept. happens all the time with "party schools". i had plenty of friends who weren't allowed to go to LSU b/c of its reputation from the 80s
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:51 pm to
If you seriously have so little respect for your daughter's intelligence that you're worried about her, a girl smart enough to get into Ivy League schools in the first place, being "brainwashed" into accepting more liberal ideas than you'd like, you don't deserve to have a child as smart as her in the first place.

This is incredibly insulting to her and, if she found out your rationale for it, this would do more to move her away from your principles than anything a professor could do. I would be furious in her shoes.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:02 pm to
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If you seriously have so little respect for your daughter's intelligence that you're worried about her, a girl smart enough to get into Ivy League schools in the first place, being "brainwashed" into accepting more liberal ideas than you'd like, you don't deserve to have a child as smart as her in the first place.

Yeah. OP's wife must be really smart.

He sounds eerily close to: "I'm worried she's going to get ruint by all that fancy book learnin'"
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 7:04 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:03 pm to
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UNC isn't just some run of the mill public school
Not the point.

A 0.6 GPA point spread is huge amongst applicants. Given equivalent MCATs, that GPA spread is likely defining as a differential between applicants regardless of school. If the UNC-Duke GPA differential is that large, one would surmise it would be even more so in the case of other schools, providing a surprising advantage to students enrolled in easier routes. That is the point.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:03 pm to
this all begs the question: should a parent have to pay for choices of their children of which the parent strongly disagrees?
Posted by asurob1
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:05 pm to
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but i also understand that when you agree to let somebody subsidize your choice, you cede autonomy to that person


We both know that's not how it works. He is horrified that his flower will be exposed to the evil machinery of liberals and lesbians.

He is going to discover that both exist on EVERY college campus and if she is going to become one or both, there isn't a single thing he can do to stop that.

What he can do however, is piss his flower off enough that his relationship with her will be forever destroyed because he didn't trust her with her first big decision.
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:05 pm to
No, of course not.

My issue here is that the OP's reasons for disagreeing with this choice are literally unfathomable to me
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:06 pm to
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My issue here is that the OP's reasons for disagreeing with this choice are literally unfathomable to me

it's on the level of not wanting to pay for a kid to go to a party school, imho

i KNOW i'm not the only person who at least knows people who had to have that discussion with parents
Posted by a want
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:06 pm to
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should a parent have to pay for choices of their children of which the parent strongly disagrees?

Parents don't have to pay for anything. Just ask my parents

I think you're being generous to the OP. And I'm not just trying to beat up on the guy. There is a huge difference in trying to steer your child in the right direction vs. being concerned she's going to get indoctrinated by liberal ideology at an ivy league school. Those are not even close to the same thing.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:06 pm to
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"I'm worried she's going to get ruint by all that fancy book learnin'"


it's "rurnt", what are you, some kind of northerner...
Posted by a want
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:08 pm to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:09 pm to
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this all begs the question: should a parent have to pay for choices of their children of which the parent strongly disagrees?


The parent has every right to impose restrictions when it's his money being spent. However, a better parent would realize that regardless of the political nature of a particular school, if it's the best career choice then he should do it anyway.
Posted by lsutothetop
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:10 pm to
I can get behind not wanting to subsidize an education at a crappy school that people only attend so they can frick around for 5 years or so. It's a poor investment of the parents' money.

Princeton for $7k/yr is not a poor investment at all
Posted by Fusaichi Pegasus
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:10 pm to
7k for Princeton ain't shite
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:10 pm to
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I think you're being generous to the OP.

of course. he's basically discussing a $50k+ investment (factoring in COL over 4 years) that he has major worries about

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Parents don't have to pay for anything. Just ask my parents

i don't see why you aren't in my corner moreso. i detested rich brats who complained about shite when their parents were paying

my mom helped me out with some living expenses here or there and i felt like shite about it, and still do. i worked 4 years in undergrad and should have worked more so she didn't have to pay for anything. that was the whole reason i DIDN'T go to princeton (or a similar school in both academics and cost)
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