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re: Awesome chart of most draft eligible QB stats from 2011 to 2014
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:50 am to ClientNumber9
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:50 am to ClientNumber9
That's a very small sample of games and the win/loss is due to much more than QB play.
Look at his numbers against top 35 defenses and compare them to his overall numbers.
Hell, Murray has almost as many starts against top 35 defenses as some of the more hyped QBs have against all opponents.
Look at his numbers against top 35 defenses and compare them to his overall numbers.
Hell, Murray has almost as many starts against top 35 defenses as some of the more hyped QBs have against all opponents.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:58 am to Sophandros
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That's a very small sample of games and the win/loss is due to much more than QB play.
I dunno, that's 9 games against elite competition. I think it's pretty telling. The top 35 defenses don't matter as much (at least to me), because the number of playmakers at a upper tier SEC school like Georgia usually put them in the top 35 on offense. I think seeing how Murray has done against stiff competition exposes something.
Posted on 4/21/14 at 10:06 am to Sophandros
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Look at his numbers against top 35 defenses
Compare Manziel and Murray against top 35 defenses. Manziel crushes Murray in almost every category from overall winning percentage to total yards to completion percentage (this one is particularly damning to Murray). When you throw in the fact that Manziel adds an astonishing 80+ yards a game rushing, there is no comparison.
This chart tells me that Murray is a good but not elite QB that feasted against average teams and struggled against top 35 defenses and was outright awful against top 10 defenses.
ETA the actual numbers:
Murray against competition OUTSIDE the top 35 defenses:
93% winning percentage
67.2% completion
5.79:1 TD/INT ratio
Murray against competition INSIDE the top 35 defenses:
35% winning percentage
56.6% completion
1.48:1 TD/INT ratio
Contrast that with Manziel's numbers-
Manziel against competition OUTSIDE the top 35 defenses:
94% winning percentage
68.2% completion
4.40:1 TD/INT ratio
Manziel against competition INSIDE the top 35 defenses:
Record of 4-5
70.2% completion
2.25:1 TD/INT ratio, considering rushing stats, in addition to 82 more yards a game in that category as well
So yes, you do see a drop as defenses get tougher but it's not nearly as pronounced as Murray's drop.
This post was edited on 4/21/14 at 10:20 am
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