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re: Snowden and Putin really throwing it down on us now.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 5:53 pm to DanTiger
Posted on 4/17/14 at 5:53 pm to DanTiger
One point about Snowden should have turned himself in....
People are so naive and ignorant if they think Snowden could have successfully blown the whistle using "proper" channels. frick no, the gov't may talk a good game about transparency and honesty but that is complete lip service bullshite. They only want to get Snowden black bagged and stick him in a hole in the middle of nowhere. The number one instinct of the state is self preservation and image maintenance. It doesnt matter how noble it may be, if it makes the gov't uncomfortable, they're putting an end to that shite any way possible. We wouldn't have heard anything at all out of Snowden had he gone through the "proper" channels and gov't would be getting away with more bull shite lol.
Theres a difference between embarrassing a gov't as opposed to the citizens of this country.
What's wrong with embarrassing your gov't that's doing shady and wrong shite and calling them the frick out on it? We all feel embarrased when we frick up and do wrong shite. The state is no different.
Embarrassment spurs you to take steps to correct the behavior that led to this and it's needed for the gov't we have today on not just the issues Snowden is concerned about but everything else including the abomination of a fiscal situation we have today.
People are so naive and ignorant if they think Snowden could have successfully blown the whistle using "proper" channels. frick no, the gov't may talk a good game about transparency and honesty but that is complete lip service bullshite. They only want to get Snowden black bagged and stick him in a hole in the middle of nowhere. The number one instinct of the state is self preservation and image maintenance. It doesnt matter how noble it may be, if it makes the gov't uncomfortable, they're putting an end to that shite any way possible. We wouldn't have heard anything at all out of Snowden had he gone through the "proper" channels and gov't would be getting away with more bull shite lol.
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meant to embarrass the United States and he seems to be happily participating.
Theres a difference between embarrassing a gov't as opposed to the citizens of this country.
What's wrong with embarrassing your gov't that's doing shady and wrong shite and calling them the frick out on it? We all feel embarrased when we frick up and do wrong shite. The state is no different.
Embarrassment spurs you to take steps to correct the behavior that led to this and it's needed for the gov't we have today on not just the issues Snowden is concerned about but everything else including the abomination of a fiscal situation we have today.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 7:29 pm to Sentrius
Justice Scalia said today at the National Press Club that he does not necessarily consider listening to conversations and gathering information a violation of the 4th amendment. He referred to the 4th amendment's "right to privacy" as vague. He goes on to say that the Supreme Court is the least qualified to decide on wire tapping, etc.
Given the danger that its guarded against, the govt gathering the information may be justified in its actions. He says nothing is absolute.
An interesting conversation which included Justice Ginsburg.
Go to 46 minute mark
Given the danger that its guarded against, the govt gathering the information may be justified in its actions. He says nothing is absolute.
An interesting conversation which included Justice Ginsburg.
Go to 46 minute mark
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